I assumed:
1- (Su-27BM = Su-35BM = T10BM)
2- Su-27SM = Old airframes upgraded with radar and fly-by-wire system taken from the Su-35BM. Next modernization program of the current Flanker fleet.
Am I wrong?
The current SM upgrade program sounds solid, but believe it will be shortly superceded by upgrades based on the SU-35BM.
That’s rigth. At some point in the near future the Russians will start to upgrade the current Flanker fleet to the SM2 standard. No a Su-35BM but near at a cheaper cost.
Honestly I don’t know. Ask SOC.
It’s not on the road continually, after all it’s got to stop and set up if it wants to be useful for anything other than a parade. As for the forests it isn’t going to be able to see much buried in trees (regardless of Big Bird on a pole).
Yeap, It is not an off-road system. But it can move between many pre-spotted sites inside the forrest and in roads. I saw several “holes” many years ago (a few years after the Wall Fall) in Eastern Germany forests (very small compared with Russian forests), but since there were not S-300 in Eastern Germany I assumed they were for Scud type launchers. Nevertheless, the principle is the same one: to move the trucks between several holes on a sort of “mobile Shell game”. This would complicate the intel gathering task.
Plus it depends if the thing is defended by stuff like TOR.
I didn’t put Tor in the equation.
BTW if the radars are spotted by satellite any LPI features aren’t going to matter as it’s simply a matter of routing GPS coordinates to the relevant weapons and they’ve got pretty good at tightening that loop up.
That’s in peace time. In war time, at least in Russia, the thing will get mobile between a lot of sites (see SoC’s blog) plus those enormous Russian forests.
Shouldnt a coupples of good olยดJDAMs or even HARMs be enougth to take out a S-300 battery?
I think the answer depends on the LPI features of the battery radar. Against early S-300, likely yes, but against later radars (as i.e. BigBird, GraveStone or TombStone) I have my doubts. Likely SOC will have better and more detailed answers. I also depends on the S-300-crew training.
*Since this thread is busted anyway* I too have heard this. But I allways wonderd how it works. My damn microwave shuts off as soon as I open the screen/hatch
Those Serbian engineers surely were no fools…
You just have to remove from the closed door the hatch that produced here a so hot debate. No particularly difficult.
Then we have guys like Rodolfo, who’s probably from some socialist hellhole, who thinks like his own country Hollywood films are an official government statement and reflect America politically. Gee…get a life.
The Soviets could have made thier own version, and i’m sure they would have done had they been able to afford it and had the population owned television sets too watch it on.
Hey guys, don’t get upset. ๐ It is better to accept the reality rather than defending this clownish propaganda via a rabid reaction ๐
Clownish movie! I think it was useful to sublimate American fears via its usual (cheap) propaganda.
Please stop with Roscharch tests :confused:
Gentlemen, the tread name is —-> P-800 Yakhont vs P-900 (supersonic) Klub
Stealth principles are not the issue.
Just one more wishful-thinking article from Ariel Cohen. He thinks the slow-tiny-doubtful stealth F-35 can deal with latest S-300 ๐
http://www.spacewar.com/reports/F-35_Jet_Designed_To_Take_Out_The_S-300_Battery_999.html
Good to see we have genuine experts on board
Ever heard of this guy ? Ufimtsev, Pyotr ?
http://www.buchhandel.de/detailansic…-0-470-09771-7A wise man (that`s not your case, BTW) would not write off russian ingenuity that quickly in order to embrace US PR…..stealth tech as the ultimate stuff.
Friendly fire or you missed your shot. It should be nice if you take a look of my posts. ๐
Can these system with S-400 be a credible first step in defeating LO Targets , F-22 ,B-2 types ?
F-22 likely NOT bacause of the stealth + suprecruise combo.
B-2 likely YES because is a stealth flying brick. Once detected is dead.
Open-door microwave ovens were used by the Serbians to capture HARM during the agression of 1999. Nevertheless, one former official told me that HARM were higly succesful weapons. They completely destroyed … the ovens :D:p