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Hi guys!!! Some interesting pictures (speculations and not only) you may see in this site:
http://www.paralay.iboards.ru
Creator: well-known Paralay
Must see here: http://paralay.iboards.ru/viewtopic.php?f=5&t=50 and
http://paralay.iboards.ru/viewtopic.php?f=5&t=23
Themes: PAK FA; I-50; T-50
My nick in this forum: Летун (KGB on Avatar)
Many peoples in that forum – professionals in aviation field.
Sorry for my English
Some pictures:
http://paralay.iboards.ru/download/f…=111&mode=view
http://paralay.iboards.ru/download/f…=176&mode=view
http://paralay.iboards.ru/download/f…=213&mode=view
http://paralay.iboards.ru/download/f…=287&mode=view
Paralay always displays an impressive imagination and creativity. Do you know in what he is inspired when he crates these draws?
I have to agree with Scooter. The RuAF will use the Su-35 as a bridge to the PAK-FA, via a small order (with the export market also in mind). Furthermore, many Su-27 may/will be updated to the SM2 standard with the incorporation of Irbis and much modern avionics and electronics. This will avoid the need to buy brand new Su-35 because by refurbishing Su-27 to the SM2 level, they will have a multi-role Flanker almost as capable as the Su-35 but with a fractional cost. This was the Russian way the last years, and I think they will not change it. In addition, the Su-34 order come first.
The PAK-FA saga or the Su-35BM saga?
PS: Well this completely blows US position that Missile shield is not aimed at Russia (China)… since every other country they claim shield is aimed at, is more less at SCUD level of missile technology … and decades away from any type of sophicticated ICBMs… let alone MRV capability.
Agreed
If one day (distant day) US does develop shield capable of “significantly increasing defense capability ” against lager number of ICBMs with MRVs… Logical step for Russia (China) is to mount Warheads on satellite like platforms in geosynchronous orbit above continental North America and Europe, and the MAD continues.
The good-old FOBS is simpler, cheaper but still effective.
Now that Bulava have seen the light at the end of the tunnel, what will happen with the Donsky, the Severstal and the Arkhangelsk? Maybe a refit with Bulava for replacing the good-old Delta-III?
what would be interesting is concerning the term “10hypersonic” used there…so seems they actually they managed to invent some sort of scramjet stuff
I think, is just the usual noise, aka the “wonder shield-penetrator weapon” because in reality all warheads are hypersonic. Anyway, may be, they have some side-thrusters to perturb their nominal path as the single-warhead of the Topol-m is rumoured to have. I don’t know how feasible is to place such side-thrusters in small warheads.
Notice also that the third liquid-fuel stage can change the ballistic path till the last seconds of the boost phase. Quite interesting!
The Third stage is liquid fueled :eek::rolleyes:
Infographic
The Bulava bus certainly does have a “lineage” from the SS-20, but has basically not much to do with it. Its the lightest bus the Russians ever build. And basically the same bus is on the RS-24.
RSM55, dou you know how many warheads will carry. It seems that already performed tests carried 3, but it was claimed that was capable to carry 6.
rail-based Sineva
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Mobile liquid fueled ICBM? I assumed the “no liquids in movement” was the police to follow from the Pioneer days? I knew talks of “land based Sinevas”, but I assumed to be silo-based, in order to replace RS-18 and RS-20. Also on Sineva with a new larger first stage for its land-deployment.
May be he mean rail-based SS-27. I knew this idea one or two month ago from RIAN. Anyway, I doubt on feasibility of this. It seems more logical and cheap to replace the Topol TELs located on Irkutsk by RS-24 TELs.
Quote on the bus:
The Pioner UTTKh IRBM was given the expanded mission of destruction of every enemy rocket launcher in Europe and China, plus the destruction of key enemy facilities such as air and naval bases and control bunkers. The original Pioner could only dispense its multiple warheads to a limited degree, since it used the warhead dispenser designed for the much longer-range Temp-2S ICBM. Therefore an improved version was planned. This would use greater-diameter motors to increase payload, and a new equipment section and MIRV bus to hit widely-spaced targets with a single missile. The missile would also have longer range, allowing it to be based nearly anywhere in the Soviet Union and still hit targets on the periphery of the Eurasian land mass.
I still remember someone claiming that was a particular bus aiming at fast and angled detachments to cover very far located targets (not along the same path). Someone have info?
Well, the warheads and bus of the SS-20 had a weight of 1.5 tn. Payload of the Topol-M is 1.2 tn for a standard 10.500 km range. So, there are two options:
a) A Topol-M with Pioner warheads should have a reduced range (around 9.000 km)
b) Some modificaions to some stages have been performed in order to increase the payload to around 1.5 tn.
Notice that this bus dispenses three warheads (bus for six small warheads still non available?) and was able to perform fast dispenses to paths relatively far from the nominal trajectory. This is correlated with some Russian claims and confirms that the “lineage” of the good-old Pioner is still alive.
You gotta consider one thing, though. Whatever radar comes with the PAK-FA, it will likely be 10-15 years younger than the one of Raptor. That alone means something. I think it has good chance of being superior to APG-77
Off-course, you are rigth. It is quite likely that an “active IRBIS” to be better than the APG-77. But in such a interim USA will also field Galium Nitride based radars.
Originally Posted by hexpop
An insider claims that the AESA radar for PAK-FA will not be inferior to that of Raptor. And there also appeared an information from an insider that one pylon for internal missiles costs more than half a million dollars (20 mln. rubbles), but this claim was received with great doubt on the respective russian forum.
I don’t think so. USA is ahead in AESA technology. May be the Russian AESA migth narrow the gap using their well proven raw power-aperture advantage, but in the end, I think Raptor will retain a gap.