Well Sferrin, Iskander are as “just in case” as GBI are. Most likely both deployments will be useless.
Well, in the end, as far as GBI start to appear in Poland, Iskander will start to appear in Kaliningrad. That’s the way the issue is taking. There will not be more “good faith” signals from Russia as far as NATO continues with its “tricks”. So if you want the Pole GBI site, accept the Iskanders and live in peace with this. Period.
The Russians, if they feel these systems are truly a “provocation” should install a similar number of ABM systems in Cuba or Venezuela. Of course, other than some sound bites from a few politicians for public consumption, such an act would provoke a collective “meh” of bemused indifference from most Americans (“Oh no, the Russians might knock down a few of the ICBMs/SLBMs we intend to intimidate/attack Cuba/Venezuela/ (insert enemy du jour here) with…”)
Joke. The Americans are still screaming by just … 100.000 AK and 24 Su-30 for Venezuela.
Links please.
36D6 radar in Georgia:eek:. Clearly Mr “poisson face” is related to such a issue. He, off course, deserve a retaliation. Let wait and see.
Let him overspend :dev2:. I am quite sure that a few Iskander in Kaliningrad are more than enough to deal with such a provocation.
Iskander-M will also be deployed in BelaRus:
…those countries like North Korea, Iran and Syria that the United States’ National Security, the U.S. Armed Forces and her allies will be protected and defended.
Useless provocation to those countries, especially because US and allies start to scream when Iran tests some of its missiles. After all, Iran may say that “those countries like USA, Israel or U.Kingdom must know that Iran, and the Aryan Armed Forces will retaliate in case of a western aggression”.
Well, I disagree with Nicolas in the SA issue. A “naval S-400” would be nice, replacing the current engagement radar by the 92N6 “Gravestone” and the array of old-fashioned antennas by just one 64N6. Off-course a high-lo mix of 9M96-48N6DM missiles is advisable. Just my opinion.
I wouldn’t want the liability of the Steam powerplant but something like this would be a decent upgrade IMO.
I would like to retain long range AshM (P-700 or P-1000).
I’m curious as to what would you be trying to achieve with this configuration though?.
Just for mission flexibility. No way one Slava will attack an American group. It will do it with Oscars and Backfires. I will let the P-800 for the Burkes… May be you are right and I am mad; 24 P-800 looks quite potent too. Anyway, this is just for fun.
I also agree with Gollevainen’s vision. As long-range killer, she should be armed with the P-1000. The replacement of the “Top Dome” by a “Tomb(Grave) Stone” (choose the most modern one) is a must. I also like to add the replacement of some SA-N-6 by 9M96M missiles on a 4 x 1 basis to lead to a sort of “naval S-400”.
An interesting option will be the replacement of 8 x P-500 by 8 x P-1000 and the remaining 8 x P-500 by 12 x P-800 Yakhont leading to a mixed configuration of 8 long range and 12 “short range” AShM. I don’t know if a mix with SA-N is possible but a high-lo 9M96M and 48N6DM ratio will also be nice in order to optimize reach/cost ratio.
On the Gorshkov class “frigates”
Which REAL economy has Russia to offer besides oil & arms?
:p
That’s just plain negation of the reality.
Off course the EU economy is larger and more developed than the Russian economy. But the west is sick with chronic deficits that were financed by printing papers. That’s sooner or later will end. In the end, westerners “masters of the Universe” wanna be will have to accept, like it or not, that they are not in position to give orders and coerce Russia anymore. Oil and gas values can go up or down, and off-course Russia will have to adjust the budget accordingly, but the Yeltsin days are over and the country is very different from the nineties. Russians are not interested in such types of “partnership with the West” anymore. Some nostalgic westerners will have to digest this and will have to accept their diminished position in the current geostrategic arena. Given the current economic trends, they are also not in position to keep aggressive toward Russia. That will be counterproductive for the EU.
Back to the topic, Mig-29 seems the better option for the Ukrainians. If they “go west”, a Slovak type NATO compatible version is the more efficient option. If they go with Russia, a SMT kit should be the chosen one.
While Russia is standing solid on its diverse economy, middle class people and world-known companies …
… or to be more honest, have nothing except for oil and arms.Price awarded for someone who can point out one Russian export product except for oil and arms, or one Russian company known outside Russia that is not directly connected with either product.
That’s not change the sorry reality of western economies. To test them, just try to increase the defence spending. You can; but off-course only by printing worthless papers. When the deficits become chronic, no one can talk about a “strong economy”.
Superb explanation:
http://in.youtube.com/watch?v=pFmYIFk5i1Q
When virtual economy replaces REAL economy that things start to happen.