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  • in reply to: How good was the Sprint missile? #1791001
    Rodolfo
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    But HiBEX was a very short range ABM. HEDI: High EndoAtmospheric…

    in reply to: How good was the Sprint missile? #1791034
    Rodolfo
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    May be some improvements considered to be introduced in the 70s Sprint-II were inducted to the HEDI.

    Development and interest in Sprint did not end with the flight testing of the missile. Martin was awarded a definition study contract for Sprint II in May 1971. This was followed by a design contract in October 1971. In May 1972 a contract worth $168 million was signed for the development and flight testing of Sprint II. The main improvements of the Sprint II missile included greater accuracy, a manoeuvring capability three times greater than the original Sprint, improved reliability, hardening and strengthening against the increased manoeuvring forces and the final improvement included a faster launch process. No known launches of Sprint II were done, and investigations into such a missile were completed during 1983 as non-nuclear forms of ABM defence started taking precedence.

    After all HEDI was a later 80s thech rocket. So, a 200 g, infeasible by late 60s would become feasible 20 years later.

    in reply to: How good was the Sprint missile? #1791105
    Rodolfo
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    May be HEDI did 200 g at the end of its path. As far I know, it was IR guided. So, with such an extreme acceleration in the thick layers of the atmosphere it would be blinded. Also, its big fins will “burn”. Obviously above 20.000 m such problems are considerably lighted. Just my opinion. Had HEDI loitering capability? On the other hand Sprint would have capability to intercept at lower levels.
    It will be interesting to know burn-out times and speeds to made some guess about peak and average accelerations.

    in reply to: How good was the Sprint missile? #1791130
    Rodolfo
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    Awesome rocket 😮

    in reply to: Defense against Anti Radiation Missiles #1791209
    Rodolfo
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    Well, sooner or later NATO will have to reconciliate with the fact that was unable to cause damage to a much smaller, older and constrained armed force. That conclusion was not only outlined in Belgrade, but also in Moscow, Beijing, Teheran and even in many western capitals. It can be accepted or not. But it cannot be changed.

    in reply to: Defense against Anti Radiation Missiles #1791213
    Rodolfo
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    Sean, that’s your point of view. NATO bombing campaign was to succeed with or without SEAD. I saw no substantive benefits from launching lots of ARM (most of them lost or decoyed). I can accept that they could have saved a few planes, but the end would have been exactly the same with or without those hundreds HARMS. That saved most planes from SA fire was … just to fly high enough.

    in reply to: Defense against Anti Radiation Missiles #1791216
    Rodolfo
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    Even S-400 will not prevent attacks on civillian infrastructure. Off-course it can rise the cost of such attacks.

    The Serbian SA network operated, albeit with reduced efficiency, but operated. So the term “successful” doesn’t correspond to such a SEAD campaign.

    in reply to: Defense against Anti Radiation Missiles #1791266
    Rodolfo
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    Yeap, but the Serbian military loses were also very low. And Apaches didn’t entered in Kosovo.

    So this doesn’t change the facts: The targeting of the civilian infrastructure was that forced the Serbs to negotiate. But even a dozen S-300pmu would be unable to prevent the attacks on the civilian infrastructure. The SEAD campaign was largely ineffective.

    in reply to: Defense against Anti Radiation Missiles #1791270
    Rodolfo
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    But, it was rendered ineffective? It operated in a “hide & snipe” mode but operated. Lets ignore the numerous planes damaged. A F-117, a couple of F16 plus 2 dozen Tomahawks downed indicate that operated. Tomahawks were consistently downed along the whole conflict. True, its efficiency was downgraded by the enormous NATO air-power, but the “hide & snipe” was the right operating mode because a frontal engagement would lead to the complete annihilation of the SAM system.

    Also I accept than the maintenance subject played a role in the Apache inactivity. But the didn’t tried to support the Albanese guerrillas while these guerrillas were decimated by the VJ. Apaches also flown some carefully publicitated show-off & bragging missions … on Albania. This is a strong indicative that NATO considered Kosovo not safe enough to the Apaches.

    in reply to: Defense against Anti Radiation Missiles #1791274
    Rodolfo
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    No, it succeeded, overwhelmingly.

    No. It didn’t. Serbs were more or less well aware of the situation during the whole period. Many downed Tomahawk indicate this. Also many ARM were succesfully decoyed. Apache inactivity also shows fear to low flying missiles and MANPADS.

    in reply to: Defense against Anti Radiation Missiles #1791278
    Rodolfo
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    The NATO required HARMS for their missions and did succeed

    No. It did’t succeed. Lots ended on ground. The SEAD campaing failed.

    in reply to: Defense against Anti Radiation Missiles #1791377
    Rodolfo
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    Eh? Where are the US extermination camps then? Are you trying to deny what happened in the Balkan wars?

    No I’m not denying anything. I am saying that if you use “moral” arguments to bomb a city, you must not complain because someone else use the same sort of “moral” arguments to cause damage in your cities.
    For instance, if you say that bombing Belgrade was right, jihadists will say that destroying the WTC was also right. Remember the “Pandora box”.

    in reply to: Defense against Anti Radiation Missiles #1791385
    Rodolfo
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    Like I said, I took no pleasure in the air bombing of Serbia, but I’m guessing unlike you I was a witness to the mass graves uncovered in Bosnia-Herzegovina, saw what the Serb backed militias did in that country, and when they tried to ethnically cleanse Kosovo using similar tactics then as far as I’m concerned they lost the right to make any complaints about what NATO did. Call it moral equivalence, but if you think collateral damage of war is the same as genocide against civilians that’s your own values at work.

    So, Usama was right using moral arguments to justify the destruction of the WTC. 😮 Jihadist even can claim to have “moral superiority”. Ehhh, he also can claim some sort of Clausewitzian rationality behind the attack: To induct the “evil west” to attack some Muslim countries in order to bleed them in the Muslim heartland.

    in reply to: Defense against Anti Radiation Missiles #1791397
    Rodolfo
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    Well, in political terms the NATO almost won: it entered in Kosovo. The cost to pay was that they were forced to admit that Russians entered too. But related to the thread, it was obvious the inability of NATO ARM to cause damage to the Serbian radars. In fact there is an abundance of Tomahawk and UAV wreckage that demonstrates this fact.

    In the other hand, if somebody start bragging-out about how glorious was to destroy Serbian civilian buildings, well, lets do it. After all Usama bragged-out about how glorious was to destroy the WTC (civilian buildings). I see no structural differences between both claims. End of off-topic.

    in reply to: Defense against Anti Radiation Missiles #1791402
    Rodolfo
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    Military equipment unable to fullfill that is useless.

    That’s true. But it can hide the inability of NATO to destroy Serbian militar hardware. It is senseless to deny this obvious inability.

    Serbs not given up so soon and NATO was forced to start the ground operation, they would have paid a very high blood price for the inflated figures of Serb forces they thought they destroyed.

    That’s also true. The Serbian fault was the inability to force NATO to start the ground campaing were NATO troops were to be subject to bleed. In fact the Serbian Army just terminated the albanian terrorists and then … to sleep. NATO soldiers didn`t come.

    Conclusion:

    The Serb capitulation was not caused by the military losses but rather the damage being done to civilian infrastructure.

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