I still wonder about the weight claims. The post SWAT figures posted here were stated in a single document only. All other sources indicate higher numbers and one could ask wether the weight figures in that 2007 document were correct at all.
Fact is MBDA is working on a modified version of the Meteor which fits the F-35s weapon bays. This is not the stock version, it had to be modified to fit. So I wouldn’t bet my ass the F-35 will be able to carry 3 per bay.
wasn’t there a plan for a smaller aircraft to compliment the Pak-fa? I think by MiG? whatever happened to that
There was a programme called LFS (Light Frontline Aircraft) which was launched in 1994 as the sucessor of the previously canceled LFI. MiG, Sukhoi and Yakolev were competing for the LFS and designs included the S-54 and I-2000 for example. The programme was canceled in 2001 when the PAK FA was started, to concentrate the ressources on a single design. Btw PAK FA is more or less the successor of the MFI programme which was canceled in spring 1997. The Su-47 and MiG MFI were actually prototypes for the MFI.
How do you know? From the airshow maneuvers it’s hard to guess, and the offcial data are probably classifed
And how do guys like you know that the F-22 is better here or there while everything is classified? :-p
And are you sure that Pirate LW sensor segment houses 1000 elements?
PIRATE is actually a dual-band imaging IR sensor working with medium and long wavelength. I mean to remember that the sensor features 1024 elements and offers a 24 Mpixel resolution.
Here is the quote from the last few seconds of the video.
Thanks, wasn’t able to view it as my internet modem was to slow at the moment.
The F-22 is not getting transmit Link 16, only MADL.
No, it is an addition to, not a replacement for, existing F-22 systems.
Interesting, so MADL is just planned to allow communication with F-35s and possibly upgraded B-2s, while the aircraft will retain the IFDL to communicate with other F-22s.
1. ASRAAM will be part of SDD both external and internal (on the door)
2. MBDA has done ground testing with the internal launch trapeze/rail.
3. Confirms, now here is the part where I almost lost it, that the study in 2008 showed that 4 (YES 4) Meteors can fit in each bay. That INCLUDES the F-35B! Further development in this area is being funded as we speak.
That’s good news, is it known wether a configuration of 4 x Meteor and 2 x ASRAAM is planned or is it 2 x ASRAAM and 2 x Meteor or 4 x Meteor?
As I said in a previous post, in 2013 the F 22 will receive a full Link 16 (MIDS) capabil=ty, instead the present receiver-only.
Is there a current, still valid source which confirms that? I have read that it was planned in the past, but got the impression it was canceled or at least further postponed on cost grounds and due other priorities.
The F-22 is getting MADL, not Link16.
MADL is directional and Ku-band, not L-band so the PAK FA’s L-Band antennas are useless to intercept or jam the datalink.
But MADL would replace the IFDL, so are there no plans to replace the F-22’s JTIDS?
They changed their mind for the first deployment of the Typhoon in Afghanistan to have some A2G weapon by that.
They changed it with such scenarios in mind true, but that’s already many years ago and your claim is therefore incorrect as it is no longer valid.
Thanks.. LOL
The May 2009 Program update had the Pre-SWAT numbers.
I noticed that the FY2011 F-35A budget docs has some pretty bad addition errors also.
I have just seen one document from a military officer which stated the weights which are claimed to be post weight reduction, any official programme documents and the manufacturers site still state the “older” figures. Makes you wonder why?
The RAF Typhoons have their gun still installed for cost reasons, but that is not loaded and its use is not trained, when most other stick to that for air-policing duties only.
The guns are maintained and used. Your information is several years outdated.
What is the new engine in there ? They had mentioned that it was a new engine developed in secret for 5 years ?
It’s reportedly the article 117 aka AL-41F1. This engine is said to be new in contrast to the article 117S aka AL-41F1S found on the Su-35 which is a development of the AL-31F with features of the AL-41F1 being applied.
Aircraft rarely use afterburners during their maiden flight, even less so if it is a new engine which is used.
As official as the specs get?
Crew: 1
Length: 22m
Wingspan: 14.2m
Height: 6.05m
Max take off mass: 37t.(37 000kg)
Max speed: 2600 km/h
Cruise speed: 1300-1800 km/h
Service ceiling: 20 km
Rate of climb: 350m/s
These data are from Wikipedia/Airwar.ru and are most likely fanboy wishful specs. Earlier sources indicated that the PAK FA’s dimensions fit in between that of the MiG-29 and the Su-27 and from judging the videos which show the aircraft in formation with a Su-27UB it appears that the aircraft is indeed smaller. A length of 19-20 m, height of >4,5 m and wing span of ~14 m appears to be a reasonable asumption. The MTOW has been previously stated between 30t – 35t. That means the empty weight is somewhere in the range between 17t – 20t.