I’m always in a dilemna about these sorts of things, because whilst I don’t like to be inflamatory or insulting, I often wonder how people can let themselves become so obese in the first place that they then start to hold a grudge against those of us who eat healthily and excercise adequately. I therefore make my comments with this in mind. I know some people have medical conditions which don’t help, but let’s be honest, you never see a baby born obese do you?

So do I think larger people should be made to buy two seats, yes I do (admittedly together would be more useful, good one Jetstar!). I agree it was wrong of Jetstar to deny her need to buy two seats from the word go, but we’ve all been there for a variety of things in life, where a call centre tells you soemthing, and then the operational team say something else, and often with very good reason, for example if the flight had been filling up with bookings since the time she originally alerted Jetstar and therefore weight factors start to come into play which the call centre team were not aware of.

If this lady accepts she is obese and clearly expects to pay for two seats on some airlines (otherwise she would never have mentioned it in the first place) then perhaps she should just do the honourable thing and book two seats in the first place, not only for the comfort of fellow passengers, but also her own comfort, I mean she does look quite large to get squeezed into a Jetstar economy seat 😮 If she was hoping just to be allowed to sit in two seats once on board then I want to take a number of airlines to court for discriminating against me and my long legs (which I was born with!) by making me sit in the economy seat I paid for when they have empty business class seats they should be putting me in!

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No!

Just…….. no.

Do you have hot flushes and flashbacks when you see that little word (or two, or whatever?)?:D

I’m not sure that KLM still imposes ‘Saturday night stay’ rules and the like, these have virtually been eradicated by all airlines these days.

What you experienced in the fare search was yield management at it’s best, and all airlines practice this, which is why (as an example) I have bought tickets from Manchester to Dublin with Ryanair for a penny 6 weeks out, but if you try to book the fare tomorrow for a day return business trip, it will be £200+ (providing you don’t get them free :rolleyes:)

This is how airlines make their money. Based upon how seats on the flight are selling, once they have sold so many then they adjust the fares upwards (and sometimes downwards if sales fall off). As I’m sure you’re aware, most leisure passengers are price sensitive, so they are offered cheaper fares some time before the flight, and those travelling on business often don’t know that far out that they will travel, and are typically willing to pay more to travel when they want to (and need to, which is where the airline gets the business traveller over a barrel).

My guess is that on a Sunday night and Monday morning demand for the KLM services from NCL will be quite high as people reposition themselves throughout Europe for Monday meetings. Once the fare was very high, you’d probably find there were only a very small number of seats left. By this point the airline had probably covered the cost of the flight and made profit and was just chancing it with the last few seats to squeeze as much revenue as possible from those who absolutely HAD to fly.

Of course, Boeing did offer it for sale to anyone. But Boeing customised it too much toward Delta and Continental. No one else was interested.

Kenya Airways ordered some, but replaced their order with 777s. They were the launch customer for what was dubbed the 767-400ERX, which was essentially an Increased Gross Weight version capable of greater range. There was interest in the aircraft, but then the 7E7 development started (i.e. the 787) and airlines lost interest. As a result Kenya Airways were pursuaded to swap to the 777, and the 764 died away. I think, perhaps if the aircraft had been developed 5 years earlier it may have been a different story, because it could have provided competition for the A330 in more cases, but by the time it was launched, many A330 operators were firmly established, including charter airlines for whom the 764 may have been a sensible option.

😮 How dare you!

Hahaha 😀

I feel Luton is a bit lacking.

I’ve corrected this sentence and put the full stop in the right place :dev2:

I saw this topic and thought B77W was perhaps moving into the world of tailoring, isn’t that their question? “Left or Right sir?” 😀

Personally I’m a left sort of boy……..I don’t know why, just the way it is! (seats that is!). Actually I’d like to say I’m a Port side boy, cos of course left or right could vary depending on whether you’re sitting in your seat looking forward, or boarding the plane looking backwards:confused:

They have already announced that they are looking for used aircraft for these servcies. The four on order are not being used for it.

Aer Lingus seeking eight A320s for new Gatwick base
David Kaminski-Morrow, London (19Dec08, 12:39 GMT, 235 words)

Irish flag-carrier Aer Lingus will not redeploy its current fleet to its new London Gatwick base, and is scouting the market to acquire the Airbus A320s required.

The airline is to station four of the type at Gatwick from next April but plans to double this fleet to eight within 12 months.

Speaking at a briefing in London today, Aer Lingus chief Dermot Mannion said the airline was open either to leasing or purchasing the jets.

“It’s a good time to procure short-haul aircraft,” he says.

But he states that there are “no plans” to operate long-haul services from the capital airport.

Aer Lingus is to operate eight initial European routes from Gatwick and believes the market will support 2.5 million passengers per year.

Mannion says the Gatwick slots have been secured through a combination of direct discussion with the slot co-ordinator and agreements with other carriers.

He declines to identify the carriers involved with the slot negotiations, but states that Aer Lingus “didn’t pay cash” for the slots. He adds that the airline obtained a “very competitive” agreement with Gatwick operator BAA.

The airline expects to invest about £100 million ($150 million) and create 120 new positions by recruiting local pilots and cabin crew.

Mannion says Aer Lingus intends to keep costs down by applying “to equally good effect” at Gatwick the same strategies it employed to ease the opening of its Belfast base.

Source: Air Transport Intelligence news