For crying out loud don’t tell Low’n’slow! The last thing he needs to play with is RATO! 😀
Adrian
I have a shoebox under my desk of small fragments from a KG2 Do17Z that crashed at Whitstable in 1940. Most are unrecognisable smush, but better ones include a piece of compass rim and – unusually – a number of 20mm cannon cases. IIRC at least one was fired, rather than “cooked off” in the post-crash inferno. Saddest relics are a Reichspfennig and a cigarette lighter…
I also have a paperweight from the same site – though the edges of a bit of shrapnel do tend to make a mess of delicate paperwork!
Adrian
Come to think of it, I remember reading that – which explains why the Buffalo is so intact – and must have filed it under “Nah, can’t be right” when I saw that pic.
So how the hell did he avoid getting whatever it was that came through the seat in his kidneys?
Adrian
Yes, they display a large chunk of Do17Z there that has family relevance to me – two of the crew were captured by a relation, hence my interest in a photo.
I phoned the owner, care of a phone number given by an acquaintance of his here, and spoke to him. He wasn’t especially friendly, but suggested I write to the trustees. I did, explaining the situation, offering to make a donation to the museum in turn for a photograph to illustrate the family history. I also offered to make over the copyright to them if I took a pic, and generally laid it on thick.
They never even bothered to reply – despite me sending an SAE. Call me old-fashioned, but if someone writes personally and sends an SAE, I will always reply as it would be the height of rudeness not to. Plus they did themselves out of the money they always claim to be so short of.
I have not gone back. I do not plan to go back.
Adrian
Given the number of bombers surviving and airworthy from the movie version, I suspect that the number will be a big fat nil. I’m not even sure how many intact bombers survive that were even flying at the time of the BoB (R-Robert springs to kind, and possibly a Stuka at Hendon, but no others).
Adrian
(always glad to be proved wrong on these things, though!)
Tangmere1940, I’d be extremely interested to hear more (and see photos, if you have any) as I went to school in East Sutton and am very fond of the place. By PM is probably best or we’ll derail the thread!
Adrian
There’s a Bf109E in the US, once flown by Hans-Joachim Marseille, IIRC. There’s also a V-series Hurricane (a quick Google reveals V7497) being restored in Suffolk. However I think this is a data-plate job…
Adrian
Damn right, Bruce! I was lucky enough to be in Saffron Walden when the first four (IIRC) Spitfires out of Audley End were being air tested. Lovely!
Adrian
Anyone else glad that their backside wasn’t in that seat on it’s last flight? 😮
Seriously, though, I think the Buffalo is far more relevant to Finland’s history than anywhere else, so it’s good to see it back.
Adrian
The upshot is, the same ‘experts’ that ‘advised’ the Lottery people have since crept back to the project, tails between their legs, asking for reports and lectures etc about the methods being used to save every last original piece of K7, so at least future projects that need help might fare better when the ‘experts’ actually understand just what’s possible.
Let’s just hope that the occasional outbursts of bile against them on the project website don’t alienate the people who could be learning most from this! One or two have been just a little hair-raising – IMHO, of course.
Adrian
According to another Forum member who I PMed last year, most of the Rebal Air Museum’s stuff was eventually sold off round private collections (and a few museums) after Dave Brett’s death.
I do recall the RAM in its Andrewsfield days had a photo collection from local events – IIRC correctly, including a B26 that dropped just short of the runway, finishing up in a garden. The crew were given that most British of welcomes – a hot cuppa each – and in the process used up a week’s ration of tea! (How on earth do I remember that I wonder – I was no more than 9 when I visited). So I think it very likely that the display was something to do with them.
Adrian
So…Is it Health & Safety’s fault? Or the EU Quango’s fault?
Because the EU don’t have no HSE… so it can’t be both!
Adrian
I just hope the engineers were being well paid for working in those conditions.
Perhaps they were told that the alternative involved walking…:diablo:
Adrian
😮 Wow! 😮 I’ll second those thoughts – I’m guessing from the description that it was effectively a big groundloop at speed, with all the damage you’d expect from the undercart being wiped off.
Getting her back in the air from that, in those conditions, deserves a medal – and just goes to show that it takes a lot to kill a Dak!
I also love the understated caption to the (gory) photo from the first aid exercise…
Adrian
Whatever the story, I think we can reasonably state that the Daily Wail will put the worst possible gloss on it, and blame Europe for it.
Yes, it’s not good. But we’ve apparently been going to hell in a handcart since about 1930, so I think that puts their prophecies of doom in an appropriate light.
Adrian