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    I think I’ve seen a Spitfire leaving Kidlington this morning.  Frustratingly, I never got a view of the planform and planes leaving from our end are a long way away before we can see them so it was pretty small by then. 

     

    in reply to: Pterodactyl and Friends #718333
    adrian_gray
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    Now that will get the memory banks working! Aeroplane  I think,  ran a piece on the Pterodactyl in this scheme,  when it flew in a fantasy ballon busting demo, or some such.

    in reply to: Lancaster NN775 displayed at Overloon, Netherlands. #719069
    adrian_gray
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    I’ve pondered that myself, hypersonic, and if it were family of mine I think I would prefer that they were recovered and had a grave if at all possible, rather than spending eternity in a marsh. I don’t have the details to hand, but think of the Spitfire pilot recoverd from Chilham in the 1980s whose remains were so close to the surface that one deep plough could have scattered him irretrievably. However, I understand how you feel, it’s not something that’s easy to have logical views on.

    This is moot in terms of my family as it happens – there are two brothers still missing from WW1, one  irrecoverably mashed into the soil of the Somme (Ernst Junger gives a graphic description in Storm of Steel of the ground he must lie in, they can only have been a couple of hundred yards apart), and the other aboard a submarine in the North Sea. I can’t imagine either will ever be found.

    I wonder whether Overloon still has stuff out in the woods as it did in the 1980s? Appalling for preservation, but incrediby atmospheric, with stuff apparently just left where it had stopped in 1944.

    in reply to: WONZ Show 311 – David Harrison #719216
    adrian_gray
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    No offence meant Dave – there’s been a few like that lately where someone (probably a bot) copies a post with a link and adds something dodgy on the end of the link that, presumably, diverts you to something nasty. There was at least one this AM on another thread and I suspect this is the same. Not your link at fault!

    in reply to: WONZ Show 311 – David Harrison #719376
    adrian_gray
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    SPAMMER ALERT!

    I wouldn’t touch that link with a bargepole. 

    adrian_gray
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    SPAM ALERT! I wouldnt touch that link with a bargepole!

    adrian_gray
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    If you can’t imagine it today,  you haven’t been to East Kirkby’s fireworks – they are apocalyptic! Plus gobsmacking good value,  for the price of just the whizzbangs anywhere else, if you are lucky, you get to see NX611 running at night, plus all the other attractions and aircraft. 

    Sorry, digression over!

    in reply to: "Aeroplane Falls On Children" Near Duxford – 1924 #719446
    adrian_gray
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    If you look carefully at the current satellite overlay, and trace it back from the more obvious cropmark in the green fields to the South, you can just about make out the line of the post-war perimeter track East of the M11.

    Going back to the OP, given how accurate the report seems to be,  I reckon the girls were in the roadside trees, to the West of the Grange itself, between the Grange and the farmyard. I’m 99% sure that that’s where I used to go visiting – what a coincidence! I don’t recall any memorial.

    If anyone has Google Earth (note to self – must install it on new laptop), take a look at previous satellite overlays to the West of DX where London Road comes off the A505 and heads  towards Fowlmere village. One of them shows a great set of cropmarks from the buildings of the original WW1 Fowlmere airfield.

    Do I recall correctly that they brought in arrestor gear for the BUFF’s arrival?

    in reply to: "Aeroplane Falls On Children" Near Duxford – 1924 #719693
    adrian_gray
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    “Common sense dictates that the aerodrome must have been extended, probably considerably.”

    Absolutely agree, but the post-WW2 airfield was long and narrow (in the pic wyvernfan attached, you can see the cropmarks from the later perimeter track), I’d expect the original field to be roughly square or maybe circular in shape.

    Best WW1 photo I’ve found is on this page: https://www.iwm.org.uk/history/american-airmen-duxford-and-the-first-wo… – suggests squareness, but no clue as to how far South the field extends.

    This is what it looked like in 1946: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Duxford_Aerodrome#/media/File:Duxford-9ju…

    I’m going to stick my neck out and say, based solely on the fact that the Western boundary near the road is largely the same as the WW2 one barring the dispersals, that I think the WW2 field probably respects the WW1 boundaries, the later perimeter track is well inside the WW2 one on that side. I’m looking forward to being smug if proved right and being educated if proved wrong, because I’m sure there are more photos out there!

    If that’s the case, Mason wasn’t far off the airfield at all (he says, trying to get back on track).

    in reply to: "Aeroplane Falls On Children" Near Duxford – 1924 #719896
    adrian_gray
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    Have sent a PM, Fargo Boyle. Thank you for checking that! We might be able to identify exactly which cottage from the list of houses at the start of the block of census returns if we are very lucky, but I think we have probably got as far as we can with that, and I think we are as close as we will get to the crash site. 

     

    As Dave has said above,  this is old-school and has been fun!

    in reply to: "Aeroplane Falls On Children" Near Duxford – 1924 #719936
    adrian_gray
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    Good question – I suspect the WW1 airfield was squarer, possibly even within the current dimensions.

    in reply to: "Aeroplane Falls On Children" Near Duxford – 1924 #719945
    adrian_gray
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    That shows the tree belts really clearly – just imagine being able to read an accurate report in the press these days! Grange Cottages seem more likely, re-reading the original report.

    You have to wonder what happened – maybe a torque roll?

    in reply to: "Aeroplane Falls On Children" Near Duxford – 1924 #719985
    adrian_gray
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    That’s a pity, I wondered if that might be the case because there were a lot of Riches in Littleport in 1911. Emily Miller might just scrape into the census as a newborn – worth checking for her?

    in reply to: "Aeroplane Falls On Children" Near Duxford – 1924 #719989
    adrian_gray
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    Good point, dhfan. I was too busy down my rabbit hole to remember it said that! 

    in reply to: "Aeroplane Falls On Children" Near Duxford – 1924 #719991
    adrian_gray
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    OK, got my teeth into this now, much easier when not on a phone in a car as I was yesterday, and tired, wet and cold.

    Yes, it’s Grange Road. Annoyingly, the scale of these maps is large enough that it’s covered by no less than three sheets, but the reporting is actually bang-on, each farm has a shelter belt of trees round it, it describes them perfectly. Apart from the airfield and M11, the scene today is close enough that I think we can be confident that the 1903 map is a good representation of the ground in 1924.

    https://maps.nls.uk/geo/find/#zoom=13.7&lat=52.08872&lon=0.11795&layers… – the road we are interested in is the one crossing the bottom right of the map.

    If anyone has FindMyPast, they should be able to find young Elsie on the 1921 census (I’ve tried looking for her parents in 1911 on Ancestry, and failed) – hopefully they’re in one of the farms along the road. My money is on College Farm which DX-ites will know as where the “potato boxes” that are really full of Spitfires from Burma are always stacked up on the far side.

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