yep as they are simalar desine to gorskov
Chakri Naruebet hardly likely to even have f35 nevermind operated them 😉
wouldn’t commando carrier converstion be feasable for the small carrier i.e PdA GG or would they just get new ships as its not economic to change them to a commando carrier
and they arn’t pure carriers their hybrids
if you don’t like this fourm you don’t have to post hear if you don’t want to
we also have a much better ecomonamy uk is one of the strongest economey in the eu which is a in contrast to when in the 60s we were on shakey ground we are in a much stronger postion today to support such a buy
it safe dispite the worries it got much futher than the CVA 01.
as far as i know they didn’t know what yards were usring for the build.
won’t trenton be a hot swap so it should be in better shape it will just be a bit old?
won’t the 35B stratigicly better than the 35C because of the more places it can land but makes sacrfices on range and bomb load. its stratigic advantage which is its only advantage over the 35C
so is it a return of the nuke cruisers but with AGEIS
has the IN ever used the troop carrying the ablity on
hermes as they didn’t refit it back and still have the commando carrier converstion.
is hermes beam to small to take migs?
do the IN have the oldest carrier in commison anywer.
which will make it the biggest carrier after the us super carriers.
rember the type 45 you can’t remove it from the eqasion even so its the other assects which will put off attacks i.e SSN with tac tom’s. also podding gr9 with blue vixen radar has been brought up last time this converstion came up
why not it got steadly bigger. rember it started at 40K it is now 74K thats almost twice the size. it at 74K weather you use long or short tons
its the running jump which i don’t like didn’t. know that CdG had the same problem with the lancher confliting with angled deck but looking at it is much less of a problem as it can still lanch and recover with one cat ratther than both.
i have troble beliving that the mig could take off full load with a drop tank. gorshoves su 33 have lots of troble with loads.
[QUOTE=AdmarilZhengHe]your example is not good because the country you say have no choice. What other airplane can Indai use on Gorshkov that do not need catapult? just MiG-29K and Harrier :rolleyes:
What western country will sell latest fighter to Algeria? Just Russia
what airplane can Yemen afford? Just Russia :rolleyes:
rember the migs were given with the free gorshov the indians had to have migs on their carriers weather they liked it or not.
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Harry,
I’ve not heard of any specific angled-deck issue regarding the conversion?. Any vessel utilising arrested-recovery techniques requires an angled-deck for reasons of safety and optimum deck-flexibility. It simply makes no sense to try and use an axial (single) deck for an arrested-recovery technique carrier these days….unless of course you build it bloody huge!!!.
The problem with Gorshkov is that the takeoff run for the Mig-29’s is so far back it encroaches on the angled landing deck – at least according to published artwork. This means that to land-on an aircraft that launching spot must be clear. Conversley it means that to launch a number of aircraft in rapid succession will take time as the following fighters will have to wait, prior to being spotted, for the launching fighter to be up and emergency free. This also means that the first aircraft launched may have to be buddy-tanked to top-off fuel wasted whilst waiting for the launch evolution to complete etc!.
STOVL on the other hand can see a fighter spotted for launch, a fighter land vertically in front of it then taxi away, then complete the launch immediately when it has a clear run. Very much easier and safer!.
jonesy
you hit the nail on the head of why i don’t like the lanch encroacheing on the the angled deck. because of the lack of a runway if their is the invitable emegency and their are planes in the air and they can’t land.
thats why i do not like the angled deck on Gorshkov seems to be too risky and removes the angled decks saftey and speed if the end is blocked .
i didn’t know that the migs were configered for buddy tanking i would have thought they could carry that much fuel kusenofes su33 seems to have told us that they couldn’t carry a full tank of fule and a meaningful load.
would they indiens have enough migs to act as tankers if they wanted to strike? is 20+ – enough.
also what was the smallest carrier that an f18 had operated off