I endorse Twin Otter’s comments and well done to the Cornish Aviation Society members who kept the old girl going, turning up weekly since the late 1980s.
A few days ago I peered through the fence at WL795 and was disappointed at the apparent lack of progress in dismantling the aircraft so it was very pleasing this week to see the video on facebook showing all four engines being removed. Well done one and all !
I visited the RAF Museum at Hendon last week for the first time in nearly twenty years. Being unaccustomed to London traffic, I found the journey to be not to my liking ! On arrival at Hendon at 0930 I stopped at the booth on entering the car park and was promptly asked if I was there on business or to visit the Museum. I said I was a visitor and was told I could not enter the car park until 1000. I politely indicated to the lady in the booth that I had had a difficult journey, was not a young person and wanted to park and wait until 1000 but this fell on deaf ears. As I am of Victor Meldrum age, I opted to pay four pounds parking and sat in the car until 1000- in a twenty four hour display car park which was nearly empty – and no one came to take issue with this decision.
I noted that car parking is payable at any time but said lady was adamant I should not enter the car park until ten. The Museum visit was fine but Io shall not rush back.
Suggestions that “the smaller museum” at Davidstow is closed are incorrect. The RAF Memorial Museum at Davidstow is open from 1030 daily, I rang them five minutes ago to confirm. Worth a visit and good value for money, I agree the Eden Project is a bit expensive but will be full of tourists today on a very wet morning here in Cornwall.
In reply to a query here, the café at the Viewing Area at Culdrose has not only closed but the building has been demolished. The car park remains open.
Oh my !! Views expressed here on the Eden Project are no doubt honestly held but it continues to attract big numbers of visitors and whenever I visit, folk seem to be happy to be there. When in Cornwall the RAF Memorial Museum at Davidstow, close to the A39 and north of Camelford, is well worth a visit. The Cornwall Aviation Heritage Museum at Newquay is not yet open but hopefully will be by the time you get down to Cornwall. Your missus might well like to visit the Lost Gardens of Heligan, hordes of people there when I visited last week
Little or no news on progress on moving St.Mawgan’s Shackleton to a new home, anyone know what is happening ?
Virtually a month since twin Otter’s post on the subject of WL795. Little or no info here in Cornwall since on the way ahead at least as far as I can glean. If the old girl needs to be moved elsewhere to a new perhaps temporary home at St.Mawgan, summer is just around the corner and the clock is ticking. I saw a reference elsewhere the Shack was purchased for nearly £25000. Big bucks. Any news out there ? Possibly local enthusiasts are preoccupied with sorting out the situation which has arisen with various airframes left behind after Classic took themselves off back to Coventry .
I have followed with interest the Shackleton saga, I attended the Saturday afternoon meeting at Kingsley Village and whilst I admired Gary’s enthusiasm to seek to save the aircraft, I felt that it was all rather too general with too few specifics as to how the considerable task of coping with the partial dismantling of the aircraft might proceed. I feel there is too much talk of setting up a bank account (not yet done ?) and of having folk give presentations to schools on the aircraft and engineering, etc. Meanwhile, I and some other Cornish Aviation Society members are perhaps more concerned with the niceties of how are you going to get the engines off the aircraft and the wings given the fact the old girl has endured over twenty five years of our lovely clean but salty air here in Kernow. I very much want all this to succeed . Given the recent and sad demise of the local Classic Air Force venture many aviation enthusiasts very much want this Shackleton venture to go ahead but there is clearly a heck of a lot of detail to be sorted out before she is ready to move anywhere other than to the scrapman.
Let me emphasise, I am not knocking anyone and I wish the project well but it is time to get down to the specifics it seems to me. Best wishes to all seeking to make this happen
I have little time or regard for Cornwall Council but Newquay Airfield is a major drain on their resources as last I heard the airport was making a loss exceeding three million pounds a year. 404 hangar is a prime asset and they need to pull in as much in rental income as they can, hopefully it will see useful aviation related activity again very soon
The Shackleton does not form part of the Classic Air Force set up. At times there have been vague suggestions that they might take over responsibility for the aircraft but this never came to fruition. The Cornish Aviation Society members who have maintained the aircraft over more than twenty five years are unaware of how things are going in terms of the aircraft’s future. It was a huge effort all those years ago to get the Shack down to its present location on the RAF Station and these days not only are the CAS members considerably older but the Station lacks the engineering infrastructure to help make this happen. It would take a lot of time, specialist equipment and some real expertise to move her.
Sad day, especially for Cornish aviation enthusiasts and the many volunteers who have worked so hard to put together and tidy up the likes of the Varsity, Canberra, Hunter and Harrier. They perhaps sought to expand too quickly and the likes of the BAC 111 and VC10 surely ought not to have been flown in to Newquay if their future is so quickly likely to be in the balance. Classic often seemed somewhat chaotic to me, they had a constant turnover of staff and in the early days when publicity was vital, they seemed very slow off the mark.
A friend of mine visiting the Viewing Area cafe at Culdrose a few weeks after Classic opened at Newquay noted they had no leaflets on classic and he personally took a wad down there.
There was even talk at one stage of moving St.Mawgan’s Shackleton up to the Classic site, it’s future remains uncertain.
Taking over the big ex-Nimrod hangar was always a big commitment, I wish them well back at Coventry but it leaves a big hole here in Cornwall. any venture such as Classic needs to think Publicity Publicity Publicity !
Thanks Rich, I like your positive comments regarding the old Shack. You’ll know that the Cornish Aviation Society squad who have worked on the aircraft each week over the last twenty five or more years are very keen for the aircraft to go to a good home but it seemed to be a case of too little too late when TV tonight showed their report on a campaign seeking to save the aircraft. Don’t expect Cornwall Council to be generous in offering a suitable space on Newquay Airport as they are experiencing major cost pressures.
Some interesting thoughts and comments here on the St. Mawgan Shack, and thanks especially to Rich for his insight in to the possible way forward.
Local TV this evening in Cornwall featured the aircraft and suggested there are moves afoot to raise fifty thousand pounds to purchase the aircraft but as far as I am aware, tenders have had to already be submitted for the aircraft plus the TV report seemed to suggest they have no specific home in mind for the aircraft. As a longterm member of the Cornish Aviation Society I recall the immense amount of effort and the equipment that was required to get the Shack down to its present home. Facilities at the slimmed down RAF St. Mawgan of today would surely not be available at the base to undertake the dismantling and moving of the aircraft plus the CAS members are mostly not in the first flush of youth these days.
I appreciate Classic Air force have considerable expertise but there are all manner of suggestions that they are moving from 404 hangar in to a much smaller area. If it comes to being relocated to somewhere on the Newquay airport site, don’t forget it is a large aircraft and would require a suitable sized area where it could be accessible to the public so it seems to be CAF or nothing. I am an annual member of CAF and find them well intentioned but frustrating at times but want them to remain here in Cornwall.
Sadly in the local area we have a highly efficient scrap merchant in the St.Austell area whilst at Newquay Airport Apple Aviation are also well placed for aircraft dismantling, let’s hope it does not come to this.