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  • in reply to: VL Pyörremyrsky ! #865435
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    Here is the factual insert from wiki;

    11 Messerschmitt Bf 109 -konetta Ribbentrop-apuna Saksasta 1944[muokkaa | muokkaa wikitekstiä]

    Saksan ulkoministeri Joachim von Ribbentrop tuli 22. kesäkuuta 1944 Suomeen taivuttamaan Suomen johtoa jatkamaan sotaa Saksan rinnalla. Neuvostoliitto vaati Suomea samaan aikaan antautumaan. Lopulta presidentti Risto Ryti lähetti Saksan valtakunnankansleri Adolf Hitlerille kirjeen, jossa hän lupasi, ettei hän eikä hänen hallituksensa tule tekemään rauhaa Neuvostoliiton kanssa ilman Saksan lupaa. Tätä Rytin henkilökohtaista vakuutusta vastaan piti Saksan toimittaa Suomelle apua.

    Saksan mahdollisuuksia toimittaa Suomelle apua heikensi rintaman murtuminen Valko-Venäjällä, joka alkoi Neuvostoliiton suurhyökkäykselle 22. kesäkuuta 1944. ”Ribbentrop-apuna” ehti Suomeen tulla 24–29. elokuuta 1944 kymmenen Messerschmitt Bf 109 G-6-konetta, sillä yhdestoista jäi vaurioituneena matkalle. Konetäydennys olisi ilmeisesti jatkunut tästä eteenpäinkin hyvää vauhtia, sillä jo kesäkuussa oli saatu tieto, että Saksa oli vapauttanut Suomelle 242 Bf 109 -konetta sekä 180 varamoottoria niihin[49] (viisi 30 koneen laivuetta ja 92 täydennyskonetta).

    https://fi.wikipedia.org/wiki/Suomen_ilmavoimien_h%C3%A4vitt%C3%A4j%C3%A4hankinnat_1940%E2%80%931944

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    I think the VL was confronted with an impossible task trying to make indigenous fighter made of wood with wartime glues.

    in reply to: VL Pyörremyrsky ! #865438
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    More to the point, in late 1945 they could have called the English or American embassies and received all the Spitfires, Mustangs or Thundrbolts they wanted for less than the cost of setting up a production facility.

    And with a bit of work they could have found a number of 109s free for the taking (and approval of the allies occupation force, of course).

    I think the need for fast speed inteceptor was cancelled because the president Risto Ryti made a deal with the nazis that Finland will not withdraw from the side of the Wehrmacht if they are provided adequate fighters. Hitler gave 200 G-6s to replace worn out G-2 and the VL Puuska / Pyörremyrsky project was cancelled.

    in reply to: VL Pyörremyrsky ! #865457
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    I think I saw figures way beyond 700 km/h for the small Puuska with only one 20 mm cannon armament.

    PM-1 was thus almost 100 km/h slower.

    in reply to: VL Pyörremyrsky ! #865473
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    This airplane actually only shared the engine and propeller with the 109, it was a totally different design otherwise. Only the prototype was built, made its first flight in November 1945, and made only 34 flights and logged some 27 hours total. It was a promising prototype, but due to lack of funds, and the fact that time of piston engined fighters was coming to an end, it was never developed further.

    I think it was in 1943 when FAF ordered the VL to present a model to keep up with the new Soviet designs and an ephasis was given on speed. There was also a really fast aeroplane version under the designation PM-3 called Puuska ( a gust of wind ). I think it was the military that did not want to reduce the MGs on the hood.

    in reply to: 7th generation assymetrical fighter ? #2163406
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    This AD-1 was not for real was it ?

    in reply to: Gripen E unveiled #2163412
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    Well, he actually has a point.. Last deals went pretty high (18x Block 50 for Oman worth $3.5bn or 18+18x Block 52 for Iraq worth 4.2+2.3+1.95 bn)

    That is 241 million a piece.

    What is Gripen E esimate for the price per unit ?

    in reply to: SAAB Gripen and Gripen NG thread #4 #2163610
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    here it is, a gripen rolled out!

    https://hushkit.files.wordpress.com/2012/12/gripen.png

    But not the e-type…which has one wheel now at the front…cheaper to operate.

    in reply to: Gripen E unveiled #2163613
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    24 F-16 with weopon and maintainance will atleast cost $5b.

    So that makes a 208 million a piece. Thus the F-35 must cost at least 400 000 000 a piece right ?

    in reply to: Gripen E unveiled #2163794
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    how old is the stock. Are they periodically tested.

    I am pretty sure they are in good hands.

    in reply to: 7th generation assymetrical fighter ? #2163883
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    It has been tuned.

    in reply to: 7th generation assymetrical fighter ? #2163886
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    I forgot this Burt Rutan design. There actually is a modern asymmetrical fighter ARES; https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zG9LlHcX8lg

    in reply to: Gripen E unveiled #2163905
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    Maybe it is due to other reasons. The US would have to approve the sale, and it is not always ready to export such advanced equipment (Iraq did not even get AIM-120). It is also likely that most customers cannot afford versions with AESA radars yet.

    Can it carry a JASSMs? We have few hundred of those.

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    As I’m currently closely involved in the design & build of a two seat all electric aeroplane, I’m pretty familiar with the problems and have even spoken with some of the guys behind the E-Genius. Liliums battery will need to be 8 times the capacity of the 280Kg unit used on E-Genius, so me thinks it will be eight times the weight?

    Lilium don’t seem to have understood the basic square vs cube divergence when trying to scale ideas. Maybe young guys in their early twenties could be forgiven but the wow! is the ESA backing. I’m appalled.

    Is this better then ?

    http://phys.org/news/2016-01-chinese-drone-maker-unveils-human-carrying.html

    in reply to: Gripen E unveiled #2164065
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    Not sure it would matter, they would both be subsonic and 4-5g limited with that load out. As least the Gripen E has a more modern IDAS with the GaN MFS. The F-16V does not even include the block 60 Falcon Edge EW system.

    What happens to F-16 lineage if they run outa letters ?

    How much does a F-16 cost nowadays ?

    in reply to: Gripen E unveiled #2164350
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    Another set of great observations by TomcatVip & Hopsalot, thanx, my votes are fun 4/5, content 0/5.

    The highlighted area above is the MultiFunctional Antenna GaN AESA to be used as RWR, directional data links and possibly (?) active radar, the latest is just out of a drawing from a SAAB presentation.

    Is directional GaN EW suite & directional datalinks 6 gen? Perhaps since some of it obviously isn’t present in “5”gen. Perhaps 6gen is not determinated by the airframe but rather what’s on the inside of an available flying aircraft?

    Right you are…a well flying craft…which makes the stealth form unnecessary using equipments that the stealth form and material cannot fool.

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