Русские не сдаются! (Russian do not surrender!) :Р
Could you then at least keep inside the national borders and not intrude everyone’s aerospace like a herd of wolfs trying to get the sheep you are making us all nervous…okay ?
thanks, MSphere & Topspeed, for your replies !!
but how to contact Mr Ikonen ?
I just had a look to > FlightForum.fi….
but all is in Finnish… no possibility for English ? !!
& I couldn’t find there the mail-address of Mr (Sakari ?) IKONEN…friendly,
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I think he is Erkki Ikonen; http://www.flightforum.fi/forum/index.php?topic=87922.0
I had a carrier designed before, but this propeller/rocket kite would be an absolute winner on carriers.
Small size and STOL capability makes miracles.
These 6 carriers with 25 space capable SOLAR EAGLE Mach 24 ships carrying 50 Mach 2 movers could be a pretty formidable AF for the UN.
I in any case I will feel comfortable. I will not mind if Finland will cease to be a backwater of Europe, and wants to be part of a great country with its thousand-year history, aviation, army and navy 🙂
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This is an interesting chart..Finland is still part of Sweden there…swedes decapitated our earlier masters the danes….and burned down the only catholic monastery already about 800 years ago. Was Crimea part of Russia back then ?
I wonder if the swedes are fearing that Finland could take over northern Sweden just because all the places over there are written originally in finnish and people speak finnish also…well I don’t think so. Swedes did have plans to attack Åland Islands in case Soviet Union overtakes Finland in the Cold War era.
Paralay we have a navy too….and my MINIKITE can operate from a very small carrier…will you surrender to us …:) ?!
1.) Does the local population want them?
2.) Does Finland have the capacity to do so?No on both? Ok well then.
Nearly one million people had to leave their homes from those regions. They are 99% dead by now who used to live there.
Finland may have a strong army , but I don’t think it can be taken by force, if russians have anykind of sense of righteousnes they’d have given it back long time ago.
During the Stalin time 90% of finnish speaking people were executed in USSR as they were farmers mostly. Russians used to call finns as tsuhna…a pig ( not by everybody certainly, but inferior race anyhow ).
There is an interesting book about the stories about the finnish originated peoples faiths in Soviet Union in the thirdies called the Beria’s Gardens…best reading ever ( in the absolute horror side ).
Okay…isn’t this far enough from the aeroplanes now ?
AFAIK, the Mirages were not shooting back..
You rememeber wrong…they shot first…and were then shot down.
It is normal that Bundesrepublik Deutschland to annex Deutsche Demokratische Republik? 🙂
Would you feel comfortable if finns annexed the Vyborg and Petsamo regions back to Finland ( lost in WW II ) ? :confused:
The topic is simply ridiculous. It’s like a clueless drunk stumbling out of a London pub during the Blitz and asking wots going on ere then? But simple ignorance or idiocy is everywhere, what the OP exhibits is a meaningful ignorance, one that echoes much broader issues with how the nations and polities of nations such as the UK engage with the world today, such that it’s even possible to be mystified by what would seem an obvious (and fairly trivial, tbh) consequence of starkly deteriorating relations between the two nations. “Wait, what do you mean our speeches, actions, policies, etc. have consequences and those consequences can skirt uncomfortably close to our fair island? That isn’t how the world is supposed to work at all!“
So do you think it is ok for Russia to annex Crimea ?
No, I don’t, enlighten us!
I had remembered this wrong…it was a F-94 Starfire that was flying too slow to intercept a Po-2.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Polikarpov_Po-2
On 17 June 1951, at 01:30 hours, Suwon Air Base was bombed by two Po-2s. Each biplane dropped a pair of fragmentation bombs. One scored a hit on the 802nd Engineer Aviation Battalion’s motor pool, damaging some equipment. Two bombs burst on the flight line of the 335th Fighter Interceptor Squadron. One F-86A Sabre (FU-334 / 49-1334) was struck on the wing and began burning. The fire took hold, gutting the aircraft. Prompt action by personnel who moved aircraft away from the burning Sabre preventing further loss. Yet eight other Sabres had been damaged in the brief attack, four seriously. One F-86 pilot was among the wounded. The North Koreans subsequently credited Lt. La Woon Yung with this damaging attack.[9]
UN forces named the Po-2’s nighttime appearance Bedcheck Charlie and had great difficulty in shooting it down — even though night fighters had radar as standard equipment in the 1950s, the wood-and-fabric-construction of the Po-2 gave only a minimal radar echo, making it hard for an opposing fighter pilot to acquire his target. As Korean war U.S. veteran Leo Fournier remarks about “Bedcheck Charlie” in his memoirs later on: “… no one could get at him. He just flew too low and too slow.” On 16 June 1953, a USMC AD-4 from VMC-1 piloted by Major George H. Linnemeier and CWO Vernon S. Kramer shot down a Soviet-built Polikarpov Po-2 biplane, the only documented Skyraider air victory of the war. One Lockheed F-94 Starfire was lost while slowing to 110 mph during an intercept of a Po-2 biplane.[10]
I remembered it was an F-86…and the recoil caused it to stall.
Finns called it a “nervsaw” ( Po-2 ) in WW II…since it bothered their sleep at nights..flying overhead.
So Po-2 was credited 1 Sabre ( + 8 probable ) and 1 F-94 .
What bugs me about AF447 is the inability of the pilot to acknowledge he was in a stall and was instead applying an “approach stall procedure”. The pilot in the transcript clearly knew that the aircraft was dropping like a stone but at no point did he consider applying a “post stall procedure”. Nose down throttle up and regain control something that is taught on the basic PPL. Ironically at the altitude he was at just letting go of the stick would of taken the aircraft out of the stall due to the neutral flight control laws in the FBW.
I figure the rookie with just over 1000 flying hours flying it when speed indicator started to display phenomenally high numbers…made him reduce the throttle and pull back the stick, since it was night he had no reference how fast he was really going, but he possibly ignored the stall alarm…since it went of after 20-30 seconds.
Yeah, but not in use until the 1980s. I interpret this thread to be about fighters which were operational in the 1970s, & I think that’s the general view.
Well is there then a question about it ?
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no, and Im not gong to lower the intelligence level of this thread by venturing to guess why you would think that would be a factor
Well I can tellit to ya.
Remember the engagement of a F-86 and a PO-2 in Vietnam ?
The best fighter of the 50s would have been the mb-326. There is no advantage to having swept wings at subsonic speeds, the 500mph is fine against any swept wing fighter. The mb-326 when fitted with guns and missiles would run circles around any other swept wing fighter. To this day the mb-339 is the best low level intercepter, not even an F-15 could stay with it.
Because of the 146 km/h stall speed ?
Yes, that is a pre-delivery pic of ERAF202 (1995). Never seen a RediGO with Eritrean markings, though.
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Pay a visit to flight forum and ask mr. Ikonen to send you one.
Air Force one is a fleet, not a single plane. And it’s modernized on a constant basis. It might be 50 years old, but it’s a pampered 50 years.
I bet it is a cool aeroplane new and all. Just pumped into that video.