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  • in reply to: Russia moving tac air troops to Syria #2191287
    Sanem
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    ISIS is a de facto proxy army for NATO and its Arab allies
    if not for the executions and brutal social policies (which are extremely similar to those in Saudi Arabia btw) and terrorist attacks, ISIS would be little different from the Free Syrian Army
    except that it invaded Iraq, which is supposed to be a Western ally, but shortly before kicked out the US and started leaning towards Iran
    so ISIS was a gift from heaven from a strategic point of view, as it not only fought Assad but also a wayward Iraq

    the West didn’t bomb ISIS when it first invaded Iraq, which is very odd as it could have stopped the invasion in its tracks. later it did, without Iraq’s consent
    and ISIS did everything possible to provoke Coalition bombardments. they could have just kept quiet, but instead it’s like they wanted to get bombed
    ISIS gave the Coalition the excuse they needed to bomb in Syria (and Iraq), something they couldn’t do before
    bombardments which seem to have had very little succes in stopping ISIS, despite having hundreds of aircraft
    but which have decimated the infrastructure in those regions, and caused a flood of refugees, typical objectives when you want to destroy a country but you can’t target its military directly

    then Russia comes in, which just a few dozen of often borderline obsolete aircraft and quickly breaks ISIS’s back, while at the same time hitting the Syrian rebels

    in reply to: Russia moving tac air troops to Syria #2191379
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    well considering the CIA has in the past installed mass murdering dictators, created terrorist groups that exterminated their own people, smuggled drugs into the US and was involved in plans for terrorist attacks on US civilian targets, I’d say them creating ISIS is far from abstract

    in reply to: Russia moving tac air troops to Syria #2191591
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    Both Turkey and SA is something of a wild card in this teather..
    But they can’t really do anything without US concent.. they would not dare, cause if they did, US could just say; -You figure out this mess without us!

    exactly, meaning that if they do go in, it will be with the US’s consent, even if the US claims differently
    the US geopolitical goal here is to control the Middle East
    they already have Saudi Arabia and co, which left Iraq, Libya, Syria and Iran (and Yemen and Somalia)
    in this century so far they’ve invaded Iraq, destabilsed Yemen and Somalia, and succesfully supported a rebellion in Libya

    they wanted to repeat that in Syria, but Assad was too succesful in resisting the rebels, and the false flag chemical weapon attacks failed to provoke NATO air strikes
    and then Iraq kicked out its US liberators/invaders, and got snuggly with Iran
    so the US was forced to change strategy: the CIA created another Al-Qaeda type boogyman named ISIS and invaded Iraq with this proxy army
    then pretended to bomb this force, I’m guessing as an excuse to decimate infrastructure in Iraq and Syria; it cetainly wasn’t to stop ISIS

    but then Russia intevened, and the whole rebel/ISIS strategy is about to fail, and it seems that’s not something those in power are willing to accept
    so their last option is to send in a real military force. Western forces are not an option, as the public opinion wouldn’t support an attack against Assad, not to mention a direct confrontation between NATO and Russia seems to be impossible
    which leaves Saudi Arabia (and co) and Turkey. both want Assad out of there, Erdogan wants an excuse to push back the Kurds, and now that SA has classified Hezbollah as a terrorist group they have an excuse to attacked them directly
    for all the talk of their armies not being very capable, the sheer number and pure threat they pose would be sufficient to push back any Assad coalition forces, at least enough so the rebels can regroup

    I don’t know what Russia will do. I don’t believe they’ll resort to a direct confrontation, Putin has been too subtle for that. more likely they’ll retreat to their air base and only fight if attacked
    but I believe they will respond, one way or an other

    in reply to: Russia moving tac air troops to Syria #2192764
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    Saudi Arabia saying the coalition will send ground troops into Syria if the ceasefire isn’t respected
    they’re also saying Russia already violated the ceasefire, although the UN doesn’t agree there

    I’m surprised Russia isn’t moving more air superiority fighters to Syria

    in reply to: A2A UCAV by LEG #2194021
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    http://aviationweek.com/defense/opinion-defining-next-fighter

    And it was Rokossovsky who said: “It isn’t how many you can kill before losing but how many you can lose whilst still winning.”
    It all sounds great but body bags don’t play well on television and politicians abhor the use of tools which could deny them the next election. Had Hitler had to deal with such limiters as true knowledge of the failures of his campaigns; he would have fought particularly the Russian campaign FAR differently.
    Look at a map of the Ukraine and Russia. What do you see? A vast desolation. A waste. In the spring and fall, the Raspu****ya turn all roads to sludge and the only ‘all weather transit artery’ are rail roads. Cut those lines and you win. Leave them be to fix your own position around regional COGs and you will be killed as you become predictable. Pushing a ‘Hitler screwed up because of superior German hardware, bought in too few numbers’ argument is a fools game. As an illustration the summer after the massive defeats of Operation Typhoon around Moscow, a much weakened single German Corps, composed of just two, understrength, divisions, wiped out four equivalent, full strength, fresh, Asian divisions _with nothing but Pz.III/IV_ in it’s march to Stalingrad.
    It then split itself, sending the armor units south into the Caucusus (mountains, just where tanks don’t belong) while investing the city but only from one side (unlike Warsaw and Krakow or the Yugoslav campaigns for example). The result was a slaughterhouse as the Russians transported materiel by rail and then barged it across the Volga.
    Feeding just enough men and guns into the meatgrinder to forever keep the Germans cleaning out the infestations of conquered territory in the resultant rattenkrieg.
    Had those tanks been put across the river and the bridgehead collapsed, Stalingrad would have fallen in weeks, not remained a stubborn festung for months. If those rail lines, indefensible across thousands of mile to a man with a stick of dynamite, had been cut the supplies would have never arrived.
    Hitler’s failure in The East was one of underestimation. He went with established Soviet rather than older Czarist population data and thus thought he faced an enemy of ‘only’ 120 million when it was in fact closer to 200 million (something Himmler discovered by the time of his Posen speech, in 1943). Had he known, of the greater numbers involved, he might have done more to quarter and divide his enemy, isolating him. Or he might have gone via the southern route and Palestine into Turkey where he could threaten Stalin’s Crimean oil directly.
    As this applies to airpower, we are making the same dumb assumptions Hitler did: of an enemy as a frontal rather than theater (holistic) ‘whole picture’ problem. Anyone facing Chinese or Russian threats has to be able to deal with the enablers to those threats across hundreds of thousands of square miles of battlespace. All while protecting their own forces and particularly base-in capabilities.
    Human endurance, carrier launch/recovery cycling and the F2T2EA kill chain of subsonic air vs. hypersonic missiles such as the DF-21 and YJ-18 etc. make this ‘broad scope’ approach to cutting the enemy up impossible in a manned airframe. Kerosene has plateau’d in terms of energy thresholds and can only become more powerful (faster for a given volume etc.) by scaling up. This drives costs and vulnerability to threats as an F-105 vs. MiG-21 equivalent comparison. They only have to come 200nm and so they can afford to be small and ubiquitous.
    With that in mind, what we NEED to do is start taking things /out/ of the system spec so that the design becomes massively lighter and the fuel burn (as engine size) can be altered to reflect persistent endurance measured in days.
    If the cockpit tub and AI radar, together, form 5,000lbs of cyber and laser vulnerabilities on the front end, then their removal also empowers the extraction of another 5,000lbs of ‘fighter’ mission weight as burner and 9G empennage from the back end. Now, your ‘fighter’ weighs maybe 10,000lbs empty instead of 20-25,000lbs. If you have one engine, say the F112 from the AGM-129, which was the size of a lawn mower powerplant and yet provided 1,000lbf at .17 TSFC, and another which provides something closer to 20,000lbf, all of it military, you can give the jet 10,000lbs of fuel and STILL have a near 1:1 Thrust to Weight _at takeoff_.
    That high installed thrust crosses huge transit segments of your ‘just another airliner’ mission radius at supersonic speeds, limiting the amount of time spent doing nothing. Before, in the mission area, you shut it down and go to this miniature engine with an IR signature smaller than a flash light and hang like a vulture, at 100-200 knots for 10-15 hours at a time.
    If your unrefueled mission radius is now something nearer to 1,500-2,000nm you can adopt another Russian proverb, this time from Konev I believe: “Be Everywhere. And let the enemy defend accordingly. He will defend nowhere well.”
    This too has an analogue in the WWII East where, at the height of the battles for Stalingrad, the Soviets, who had been picking at the edges of the German supply lines, leaped all over Rumanian and Hungarian units acting as flank security for those logistics trains and just mauled them to pieces.
    Even as a German General, Hermann Balck, with a lonely division on the far end of that supply chain, killed an entire Soviet Army group and some 1,500 tanks, holding the southern flank of the Chir River. The center could not hold. And would not be allowed to evacuate.
    We are in that position, today, with airpower. The center cannot hold because it is built around the limitations of manned airpower operating on a narrow frontal basis of fixed, focused, targeting.
    And especially with netcentrics and digital battlefield stuff dispersing assets all over, that kind of approach simply will not work. Not like a robot can.
    The key to making this paradigm shift is accepting that lasers are the way forward. And that there will be a _narrow_ window whereby 250KW airborne systems can both act against enemy aircraft and self-defend (along with MSDM hit to kill interceptors) against inbound missiles. But that men have no place in such an equipped vehicle. Both because the logical spot for a laser turret is where the canopy is now. And because that laser will blind and then fry a man seated in that cockpit, in a matter of seconds, from miles away.
    Once you see this, it becomes obvious that 2MW surface lasers will follow and man will REALLY not have a place on airframes which have to be _assumed_ to have a 50% attrition rate, FNOW/FDOW against zero time of flight = never miss threats.
    Those lasers will be here, by 2030. And the F-35 will have been in full service for less than 10 out of a 40 year service life. This is where we make the mistake of employing the many at the cost of a having a robust ability to accept attrition from even a few, technology leveraging, mega threats.
    For manned airpower, it will be as it was when the asteroid took out the dinosaurs at the KT boundary. Everywhere and then…nothing.

    in reply to: Russian UCAV's in Syria? #2194775
    Sanem
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    well that’s my question, are UAVs more efficient and/or effective at delivering bombs than manned jet aircdraft or not?

    MQ-9 is said to cost $3,624 per hour
    although I don’t know if that price includes the satellite link, I’m guessing that a direct data link would be a lot cheaper
    the MQ-9 flies at about 300 km/h at cruising speed, and has an endurance of 14 hours fully loaded (Wikipedia)
    Khmeimim airbase is located at 150 km from Aleppo, meaning with an hour transit and an hour for fuel reserve it could loiter for about 12 hours with its 1,400 kg payload

    I have no idea what the flight cost is for an Su-24, but it can fly a lot faster (800 km/h cruise speed?), carry a lot more (8,000 kg) and its been long been paid for (Russia would have to develop and buy new UAVs)
    however I doubt it can loiter for more than a few hours on target

    then there’s the Su-34
    it has somewhat similar specifications to the Su-24, if faster and with more range
    Russia is buying these brand new, said to cost $34 million
    now assuming Russia can get capable UAVs at the usual lower cost than their Western equivalent, say $8 million for a Reaper
    you can get 4 UAVs for the price of an Su-34
    combined they can carry a respectable payload (6,000 kg) but they can be present at 4 different locations, and they can loiter for an extended amount of time

    so certainly if you want to keep ordnance aimed at a certain point non stop, a UAV offers a capability that would require a multitude of manned jet aircraft
    and in terms of cost per aircraft you can deploy 4 UAVs for a single Su-34. that’s 4 area’s you can cover non-stop
    this is an important strategic, psychological and tactical aspect: it allows you to observe an opponent 24/7, a useful ability in a city fight like Aleppo or against ISIS (which are planting IEDs to slow down the Syrian advance into their territory); you can instantly engage an enemy if he tries to deploy or prepare an assault; and the enemy will get the feeling he’s being watched at all times, a scary idea that can really limit military operations

    another aspect is availability, UAVs tend to be deployed in a lot higher ratio compared to the number kept in reserve
    and a last aspect is the pilots: Russia lost a number over Georgia, and also that Su-24 pilot against Turkey
    UAVs can be operated by much less experienced pilots, who cost less and won’t get killed

    in reply to: Russian UCAV's in Syria? #2195193
    Sanem
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    is the Reaper low on payload?
    I’ve seen plenty of jets flying missions over Libya and Syria with just one or two bombs
    granted these usually flew from long distances, but I imagine pound/cost per flight hour the Reaper still beats anything manned, except maybe a B-52

    over Syria one could also revert to direct control or using a relay aircraft to control UAVs, avoiding expensive satellite links
    those Iranian drones are a good example, I doubt they have satellite links

    the other thing is loiter time
    unarmed UAVs are great for keeping an eye on the enemy, and manned jet aircraft are great for scooting over and bombing them
    but when the enemy launches a sudden assault, or tries to move, there is simply nothing that beats a UAV overhead instantly responding

    micro weapons are definitely needed, Hellfire missiles must be the biggest waste of money on ammunition ever. like shooting nukes to kill a fly
    they are working on laser guided 70 mm missiles
    what does Iran use on its UAVs? is that laser guided or TOW?

    in reply to: Russian UCAV's in Syria? #2195730
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    yeah, but I’m not even thinking of stealthy jet powered UAVs yet, I was just thinking heavily armed prop UAVs like the MQ-1 and MQ-9
    because over Syria, where their opponents have pretty much no air defences, such aircraft must be a much cheaper way of putting ordnance on target
    and more effective too, as they have a much greater time on station

    in reply to: UCAV/UAV/UAS News and discussion 2015 #2195800
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    yeah, looks like a dumb execution of a good concept
    probably expensive too
    and those rotors aren’t a very efficient way of flying

    what you want is something like this
    http://www.nationaldefensemagazine.org/archive/2012/October/PublishingImages/DTN_robotics.jpg

    hang a grenade on it and fly it towards the enemy
    it’s faster, cheaper and has better endurance

    also you’d want a UAV that can drop the grenade, so you can reuse the UAV
    a small UAV flying at any decent altitude and speed would be quick enough to avoid enemy fire

    in reply to: Iranian air force future procurement #2195890
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    With the Russian economy in doubt, military spending decreasing, and Chinese production of domestic engines, it’d be wiser for Iran to buy J-10s and J-31s instead.

    another factor is supplier dependability
    who knows what the world politics may look like 10 or 20 years from now
    Russia may alter its stance towards Iran, as may China, for whatever reason
    Iran has a military full of equipment from a former ally

    so it might be wise for Iran to diversify its military imports between the two
    also because China does have an edge on Russia in certain fields, like UAVs
    and this way Iran can also play them against each other, negotiating the best deals

    Iran 2014 Symposium added that “if energy consumption continues the same way by 2025 Iran will need 2.5 million squares natural gas which makes Iran the main gas importer in the world.

    hm, I’m surprised Iran hasn’t looked into building nuclear power plants yet, it’s the most efficient source of energy and a trademark of developed countries
    weird Iranians…

    in reply to: Russian UCAV's in Syria? #2195941
    Sanem
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    any links? I know Russia is rather secretive on its drone programs

    in reply to: Russia moving tac air troops to Syria #2196277
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    Let`s get real, 4 Su-35S, 4 Su-30MKI, few Su-34 and bunch of older Syrian Mig-29 with S-400 and few other SAM`s can`t win the fight against Turkey!

    of course not; and I don’t believe Russia would fight Turkey, they’d just support Iran in blocking off the Strait of Hormuz
    then the ball is NATO’s court, and they’ll have to go on the offensive
    not a position they can afford to be in

    that said, if Russia would take a stand against Turkey, the Turkish forces would suffer heavily for little or no losses for the Russians
    in today’s wars, that’ll make Turkey look like a loser, even as they struggle to fight some goat herders

    in reply to: Russia moving tac air troops to Syria #2196991
    Sanem
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    You can detect the numbers, the direction, the speed of the su-35 coming at you. A submarines trump card is its stealth, you are not sure where it is, and that creates almost a ghost like fear factor.

    that’s assuming the Turks will be able to tell the difference between an Su-24 and an Su-35S
    or maybe that formation of Su-24s is actually an Su-24 and an Su-35S
    then there’s EW jamming

    and the Su-35S’s sheer speed/altitude and radar/missile range superiority means any Turkish/SA aircraft that enter Syrian airspace risk being engaged at will and with little or no warning

    as for submarines, they also have major flaws: they’re slow, they can be found/cornered by a capable navy, and their main offensive weapon is the torpedo, which in today’s world of active denial weapons could be getting a bit too slow for the job
    http://www.defensetech.org/2013/10/28/navy-deploying-new-anti-torpedo-technology/

    in reply to: Russia moving tac air troops to Syria #2197056
    Sanem
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    First can be said also of Su-35 even at a deeper level: it use a PESA radar, an updated version of AL-31 series instead of a fully new item and so on…

    sure, in some ways it only matches the latest design for a new F-15, or Typhoon

    but timing plays a big role. like in WW2, the M1 was the best infantry weapon of the war because the StG 44 was introduced too late and in too few numbers
    and the Me262 was king of the air because the Meteor was simply forbidden from operating over Germany
    the Su-35S just has the advantage of being the most recent high tech aircraft in combat over Syria and Iraq
    making it king of the battlefield, unless the US would commit the F-22, and even then I wouldn’t underestimate the Russians’ ability to counter it

    which remains me of the Falklands war, one English submarine scaring off the entire Argentine navy
    in the same way a handful of Su-35S’s would be capable of deterring an entire fleet of Turkish and SA F-15s and F-16s

    Doctrine at the contrary is a very valid point

    two more points are stealth design and combat role
    the F-35 needs to be stealthy, and was designed mainly for ground attack
    meaning its EO IR sensors will be limited by the stealth design, and specialised in ground detection
    the Su-35 on the other hand has a big EO IR sensor sitting on its nose that’s probably specialised in air combat

    in reply to: Russia moving tac air troops to Syria #2197175
    Sanem
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    I hope that you are joking.

    well I don’t have acces to top secret informations, but I think it’s possible
    because
    – the F-35’s tech is dated in many ways, based on old architecture
    if research on the Su-35 technology started later, it’ll likely be based on more advanced architecture
    – the Russians might use different doctrines, allowing them a degree of technological freedom LMT might not have
    a good example of this difference in mentality is that Russia is focussing heavily on armed robot vehicles, something the US has been staying clear of

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