Spitfire9The prototypes of AMCA will fly with 90 KN engine, the final engine will be 110 KN class. The engine would be developed in India with foreign assistance.
http://thumkar.blogspot.in/2015/02/ada-details-stealth-amca-engine-plans.html
From the link:
So ADA will design the fighter around a 110-kN engine, but use a 90-kN off-the-shelf engine to power prototypes of the aircraft, giving itself time to develop a 110-kN engine.
ADA Director PS Subramanyam told The Hindu that it would be prudent to procure and integrate an available 90-kN engine into the aircraft so to ensure that the project was not held up.
“Since the fighter has been designed to take on an engine with a higher thrust, we can integrate it as and when such an engine is available. This is what has been done by Dassault in the Rafael development program,” he says.
Elaborating on AMCA powerplant options, K. Tamilmani, Director-General (Aero R&D) told the press that since no 110-kN engine is available off the shelf, GTRE will partner with a US or Russian engine manufacturer to develop such an engine – mostly within India – to power AMCA production variants.
A 110Kn engine is to be developed “mostly within India” and the “goal is to integrate the new engine into the aircraft by 2020-21.”
What nonsense. Still, keeps readers of The Hindu happy, I suppose.
Spitfire9Entering into negotiations to buy something does NOT mean you have decided to buy it.
If you want to buy some fruit in a market you can see (in some markets) what the price is so you make a decision to buy an apple or a pear or a pineapple. You do not need to talk to the supplier about what exactly you will be receiving (nature of the apple or a pear or a pineapple), you do not need to talk about how much it costs, you do not need to talk about when you can have it, you do not need to talk about anything else you need to buy from the supplier in order to be able to eat the piece of fruit etc. You need to find out a lot from a supplier if you want to buy a fast jet BEFORE you commit to buying (ie you need to enter into negotiations with the supplier).
Look at UAE and Rafale. It seems that UAE would like to buy Rafale but when they talked to the supplier they then decided not to do a deal to buy Rafale. They then talked to Eurofighter then decided not to do a deal to buy Typhoon.
Spitfire924 Rafales to Egypt also gets the French MOD procurement budget off the hook (assuming Dassault does not increase production rate substantially).
Spitfire9The denied sale for the UK Government about the Gripen E/F to Argentina has been motivated only by political factors,
Right.
…since there are none remarkble military issue by the UK that could give some reason do deny the sale of the Gripen E, once the UK will not employ the Gripen E.
Sorry. Wrong.
…I think that if Brazil had been threatened to cancel the purchase of the Gripen E / F, the UK would have released the sales to Argentina,
Sorry. Wrong.
Spitfire9Felicitations!
Spitfire9From an article about Boeing/SAAB T-X program:
Meanwhile, Buskhe says Saab expects the financial element of Brazil’s 36-aircraft Gripen E/F procurement to be finalised by around mid-year. “Everyone is working towards that target, and there are no indications that we have any stop in any process,” he says. Sweden also plans to acquire 60 of the type, and he notes: “We see a great possibility to sell around 400 to 450 of the new Gripen E and F” over the life of the programme.
“We are full-speed ahead to develop the Gripen E, and also to execute on the backlog of C/Ds,” says Saab chief financial officer Magnus Örnberg.
http://www.flightglobal.com/news/articles/saab-boss-upbeat-on-t-x-prospects-with-boeing-408960/
I was wondering, what does the backlog of C/D’s refer to? Can anyone explain?
Spitfire9But almost surprisingly reaction after the Brazil has been denied by UK about the sale of 24 Gripen E / F to Argentina, the Brazil has been resigned with this decision and passively accepted the order from UK.
As Brazil has been considered the Argentina as a strategic ally, the minimum that could be expected in my humble opinion should be that Brazil at least would be threatened to cancel the own deal with the Gripen E / F in support of the Argentina, however the Brazil has ignored it as if it never happened.
Before ordering Gripen Brazil knew the UK would not allow export of British components to Argentina. Argentina knew the UK would not allow export of British components to Argentina. Why should Brazil cancel the Brazil contract?
I imagine KC-390 does not contain British components unless Argentina thought it would never order any for its own use.
Spitfire9Edit- For those who are unfamiliar with POGO, their 30 year history includes: attacking the M-1 tank (arguably the most successful post-WWII tank), the M2 Bradley, the AMRAAM, F-22.. on and on. Some of the most successful DoD programs of the last 30 years came under attack by POGO. Worse of all, their arguments are absurd, google the POGO analysis of the F-22.
It may be that POGO’s opinions are of questionable value. If, however, in their endeavours to argue against F-35 they expose attempts by the military to mislead the US government (whose servants they are), that issue needs to be addressed. Usurping the US executive’s right to make informed – not misinformed – decisions about US military equipment by submitting data tailored to further the US military’s aims is not acceptable. It represents an attack on the US political system.
Spitfire9Surprise, surprise.
More dirt on the USAF fixing things to get their little pet through the gate.
I’m particularly interested in this bit:
The release of the manipulated data follows comments by an Air Force general who said that any service member providing Congress with information about the A-10 would be committing treason.
POGO has called on the Air Force Secretary to remove Maj. Gen. James Post from his command for those comments
Is this true? If so, why is the general in question not already in jail?
This general does not appear to go along with the idea that the political executive should make decisions based on accurate information. If that information is deliberately distorted by the executive’s servants (the military) then the military are effectively trying to take over the decision making process. That’s a no no. It’s a subversion of the US democratic process.
What happens in the USA when information distorted by design with the intention of misleading the executive is submitted to Congress? Does Congress set up a commitee to sanction those involved?
Spitfire9Korean Air, the nation’s top air carrier, failed to place a bid for the ROK Air Force’s homegrown fighter program by the deadline, making the bidding for the 8.5 trillion won ($7.95 billion) project invalid, the state arms procurement agency said Monday.
However, a second bid deadline of 24th Feb has been set. Don’t see how KAI and BAE will have time to make a bid. A third deadline would then be set after which if only 1 bid were entered, the bidder would be the winner (assuming the bid satisfied criteria and was within the allowable price). The question to me is this: how can KAI and BAE put a bid together in time?
Spitfire9UK F-35 Lightning II Testing Begins In the US
(Source: U.K Ministry of Defence; issued Feb 9, 2015)
Spitfire9So, India added a requirement that make the whole program MMRCA impossible to reach a positive conclusion…
From the Aviation Week article, it would appear to be so if one gives more credibility to French defense procurement chief Laurent Collet-Billon than to the Indian representatives:
“Dassault will not be responsible for the whole contract. It is a co-management setup,” says French defense procurement chief Laurent Collet-Billon, who was clear that France will not assume full liability for the HAL-produced aircraft. “It cannot be a problem, because it was not in the request for proposals (RFP).”
I have to ask, though, why French defense procurement chief Laurent Collet-Billon should be involved in an export contract.
Spitfire9Reports of Prime Minister to Fly In A French Fighter Jet At Aero India Denied
(Source: Ministry of Defence India; issued Feb 7, 2015)
With reference to a news item in a section of the media that “At Aero India, PM may fly in a Rafale”, it is clarified that there is no plan for the Prime Minister Shri Narendra Modi to fly in any fighter jet. The news item is incorrect, misconceived and is not based on facts.
It is further clarified that the conduct of Aero India, a premier aero-show of Asia, has no linkage with any of the acquisition plans pursued by the Ministry of Defence.
Spitfire9Swerve, I don’t know if the engines are subject to US government controls. From what you pass on about the KC-390 containing ITAR-free systems, sounds like the engines are not subject to export controls either.
Spitfire9Super Tucano contains ITAR-restricted military technology.
If something contains ITAR-restricted items, a permit from the USA is needed before it can be transferred to a new owner.
KC-390 doesn’t contain ITAR-restricted items.
If something does not contain ITAR-restricted items, no permit is needed to transfer it.
Why is that difficult for you to understand?
Engines? Is IAE V2500 not on ITAR list?
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