The Gripen Demo aircraft does not map to anywhere in particular in the F-35 program. It is a test bed aircraft that has, as its name implies, demonstrated some key subsystems but is absolutely not a proper production aircraft.
The F-35 program meanwhile is already turning out production aircraft that are being delivered to the first operational unit, which is itself scheduled to reach IOC around the same time the first true Gripen NG aircraft flies.
Those are the facts. There is really no way to say the Gripen NG program is closer to a final production standard than the F-35. Unless you just want to live in a fantasy land I suppose.
Both F-35 and Gripen E are under development. The fact is that F-35 development has been phenomenally badly managed, so much so that the program has been subject to multiple delays and restructuring in stark contrast to SAAB’s management of Gripen development. I don’t know which will reach final production standard first. I do know that I am confident SAAB will manage the rest of Grpen E development more competently than LM will manage the rest of F-35 development.
Via Johan Grön MP http://manilastandardtoday.com/2013/07/03/pilots-eye-gripen-fighter-jet/
Another article where the journalist is a bit shaky on knowledge:
1 The Gripen… has a top speed of 1,552 miles per hour.
I make that mach 2.425 (assuming 640mph – mach 1 at altitude)
2 Thailand is said to have purchased 12 Gripen jet fighters
Thailand is said to have purchased… ???
I hope this was right:
A random interview conducted by the Philippines News Agency on Tuesday indicated that Air Force pilots prefer the Gripen to other fighter planes because of its long-range anti-ship weapons, air-to-air missiles and lower cost.
However, the following appears in defensenews
MANILA — Philippine President Benigno Aquino vowed Monday to acquire fighter jets, air defense radar and other equipment within three years to bolster the country’s weak air force, amid a territorial dispute with China.
“I assure you that before I step down from office, our skies will be guarded by modern air assets,” he said in a speech during a visit at an air base in Clark, north of Manila. The speech was broadcast live on radio and television.
Among these are “lead-in fighters, long-range patrol aircraft, close-air-support aircraft,” as well as transport planes, attack- and multi-use helicopters, air defense radar and flight simulators.
Perhaps I’m wrong but I wouldn’t describe Gripen as a lead-n fighter. Perhaps the president is wrong and should not have used the term “lead-in”.
A rare exception. How many non-US weapons has S. Korea imported in the last 60 years? A tiny number, & generally secondary.
Consider the selection of the F-15K. It was pretty obvious afterwards that the competition was fake: the decision was made in advance, & the reason for evaluating other types was to extract better terms from Boeing & the USG. And even so, Singapore got better terms, including higher-spec aircraft than S. Korea was offered – because Boeing & the USG knew they had to try harder in Singapore.
In civil aviation an airline will always try to play Airbus off against Boeing. Even if you have a large fleet of 737 or A320 aircraft and intend to order more of your existing type it is always possible that the other manufacturer will offer you a dream deal to get your business. The extra logistical cost of having 2 types for several years is considerable but I don’t think can be compared with doing the same in the military domain. I don’t see how F-35 or Typhoon can overcome the handicap of SK needing to spend much more on logistical support (ergo less on the aicraft themselves because of the fixed budget) compared to F-15.
Emir of Qatar announced his abdication in favour of his 33 year old English-educated son. I wonder if the new leader is an anglophile? Perhaps not if he went to a boarding school. Not always the nicest of places to be, English boarding schools (in my experience).
The veto is there so that the UN can’t act against the interests of the great powers themselves.
A perfect reason to change the setup IMO. Protecting the interest of the Security Council incumbents should not be part of the UN’s remit.
If the USA wanted to, a no-lfy zone over Syria is not a problem.
Issue is political will – the 25km buffer zone was sort of compromise offer and even it seems to be going nowhere. Obama does not look like the type to act without UN approval, and UN Security Council will never approve No Fly Zone due to Russian veto.
UN Security Council setup is an anachronistic joke IMO. Furthermore I see no reason why 5 countries should prevent the UN acting unless it suits them alone (and all of them).
August launch for Indian carrier
How many aircraft are needed by France? Putting a lot of French content into 50 aircraft is less financially viable than doing the same for 150.
After his recent trip to France, Venezuelan President announces purchase of 15 A-330 to conviasa airlines and 12 cougars to the Air Force…
I think it’s agreed to buy 3 A330’s for Conviasa with a requirement for at least 15:
“se acordó la compra de tres aviones Airbus A330 para la aerolínea estatal Conviasa… se necesitan al menos 15 aviones de este tipo.”
1. Technology
2. Technology
3. Technology
4. Local jobs
5. Defend the home islands
There is a problem looming for Japanese F-35 purchases, in the opinion of ex-defence miinister (up to December 2012) Morimoto:
“The MoD has committed to purchasing the first 10 units in tranches of four, two and four, he said. After that, “if the price is still higher, the Ministry of Finance will be relatively reluctant to purchase the planes. We can’t change the basic plan for the first two or three tranches,” so the changes will come later, he said.
Doubtless Japan will pay whatever is required for local assembly in the end.
Since Rafale was politically unacceptable for the RN’s carriers, Hawk is politically unacceptable for France. Period.
Nic
That sounds realistic.
What would you think of the proposed Alenia aircraft? A jet at the same cost as a turboprop sounds very attractive to me.
Interesting story in defence-aerospace.com (at the moment):
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A spectacular photo of the Airbus A400M launching flares during a recent test. The aircraft is eagerly awaited by the French air force, which gets its first one in September. (Airbus photo)
Mmmm… not sure how eagerly the French air force is awaiting this A400M!!
The Eurofighter is also made by European aerospace company EADS and Italian weapons maker Finmeccanica.
http://www.reuters.com/article/2013/06/19/airshow-rafale-eurofighter-idUSL5N0EV32C20130619
You would think that with Eurofighter being around for a long time even journalists who are not aviation specialists would know which companies were involved with making Typhoon! I wonder who assembles the ones for the RAF – is it EADS or is it Finmeccanica? :rolleyes:
I also read in the report that Rafale and Typhoon “are also competing for the contract against various Boeing-made planes”. It does sound like the journalists have not gone far enough in their ‘research’ to find out what fighters Boeing makes.
Alenia unveils new trainer
“Italy’s Alenia Aermacchi presented a new basic-advanced jet trainer on Tuesday — the M-345 HET — that it claims will cost less than a turbo prop to buy and cost the same to run.”
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Giordo said development would cost less than US $100 million and take two years. “There is a limited amount of money and we must respect the schedule,” he said.
Apart from being designed to replaced the MB-339, the M-345 HET will be pitched at air forces replacing first generation Hawks, the Alpha Jet and the L-39 Albatros, a spokesman said.
“Air forces are tending to replace these aircraft with turboprops, but we believe the M-345 will be cheaper and offer the same operating costs,” he said.
Giordo said he predicted a global market of 200 aircraft.
The spokesman also claimed the new, low cost jet could find favor with the French Air Force as it seeks to create a two-tier training system.
“This is perfect for France’s possible need for a trainer, which they they have said could be a turbo prop, in a two-tier system,” he said.
funny that no-one mentioned K-FX… T-50 for Rafales sounds like a good swap.
Only if the current competition is scrapped and Dassault are prepared to bid in a new competition. All contenders have entered bids above the price limit of $7.9 billion. Boeing and Eurofighter are reported to have entered bids of $9.2 billion, LM quite a lot higher. Boeing and Eurofighter may be able to reduce their offers to squeeze in below the limit. LM appears to be out of contention.