Latest news I’ve found on T/A-50 purchase is:
http://www.philstar.com/opinion/2013/05/29/947556/editorial-military-upgrade
Apparently T/A-50 purchase is being finalised
Defence Department scandalised by corruption in procurement processes.
Apparently only 16 UH-1H’s are mission ready. A total of 67 required.
Plans to buy “new” UH-1s have been delayed.
From the link above:
“The defense department is also reportedly finalizing the acquisition of 12 fighter jets worth P18 billion from South Korea. In the ongoing upgrading, the defense and military establishments must make sure all deals will be aboveboard, particularly the negotiated purchases. The Armed Forces of the Philippines has not yet fully recovered from corruption scandals mostly involving supply procurements and fund juggling, with several AFP generals implicated.
Such scandals not only erode public trust in the nation’s defenders but also derail the upgrading program, modest as it is, that the AFP badly needs. The upgrade is not a preparation for war; the nation is already too far behind most of its neighbors in defense capability and will surely be outgunned in case of armed conflict. But the upgrade is necessary if the country wants to be capable of protecting its territory from smugglers, poachers and other foreign intruders. The upgrade is needed if the nation wants to stop depending on others for its own defense. If the upgrade is tainted by scandal, the biggest losers will be the AFP itself, and the public it is sworn to protect.”
Corruption, corruption, corruption… I hear that it’s a problem in the Phillipines. As above, I hope it does not wreck the deal.
They are not my projections but those of Goldman Sachs and PwC, both of which in their latest projections (dated 2011 and 2013 respectively) have Brazil settling in as the world’s fourth largest economy by 2050.
Looking at IMF, World Bank etc rankings, I guess Brazil will overhaul France well before 2020 to become the fifth largest economy.
Kongsberg Successfully Completes Fit Check of Joint Strike Missile (JSM) in the Internal Carriage Bay of the F-35 Joint Strike Fighter (JSF) Aircraft
France has sacrificed all its autonomy. when you look at its decisions. Look at Peugeot/Citroen group and why it need to layoff so much. I think India will find out that Rafale is not so much French.
You say some things that seem very bizarre to me. Please explain why you think Peugeot/Citroen group has to lay off labour so much. Please explain how that is an illustration of France sacrificing its autonomy. Please explain how Rafale is not so much French. Your statements sound very inaccurate to me.
China rose due to American money (Japan/Taiwan/Korea aid and investment is American money). so who is preventing Brazil rise?
You sure the USA has been financing China? In October 2010 China held US government bonds exceeding $900,000,000,000 in value.
http://www.guardian.co.uk/news/datablog/2011/jan/18/us-federal-deficit-china-america-debt
http://www.aviationweek.com/Article.aspx?id=%2Farticle-xml%2FAW_06_03_2013_p26-582961.xml
Mmmm… I queried the $25,000 CPFH for F-16 cited by USAF representative and it was put to me that the cost was due to the high maintenance cost of high hours aircraft. I accepted that but if you read the article, F-16 costs are not $25,000. The costs are being artificially boosted above what they really are.
“The SAR has provided a new methodology for comparing the F-16C/D and F-35A CPFH by “normalizing,” or effectively inflating, operations costs of the legacy fleet. One defense official familiar with cost-estimating practices says it is highly unusual to “tinker with actuals,” or numbers derived from real operations. “
I think I will go back to my belief that F-16 CPFH is less than $15,000 (and perhaps a great less than $15,000). On that basis F-35 CPFH is more than double that of F-16.
Might as well be adult and deal in facts where available, mightn’t we?
I really think Typhoon is a hot rod that just needed cheaper parts via larger mass production.
Yes, economies of scale are desireable. However, you need proper, organised project management and an efficient manufacturing system. UK, Germany, Italy and Spain prevented that being possible eg to assemble parts into the finished product, one would normally build a final assembly line. Why not 5, 10, 20 (or 4)? Because 1 gives the lowest cost of assembly.
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they save cost cuz they combine mrca and stealth fighter program into one. f35 can do both. so they save money and time in the long run.
f35 already being delivered to england slowly. you should know.
I think you do not understand that India wants to build its own advanced aircraft in the long run. Some of the reasons are:
Sovereignty – if India builds its own aircraft with Indian components, no other country can interfere with how that aircraft is used.
Cost – if India acquires the technology to build its own aircraft, designing, developing and manufacturing should cost less than doing those things in Europe or the USA so the aircraft should cost less.
Employment – if India can design, develop, test and manufacture advanced aircraft, many highly skilled jobs can be created in India.
Foreign exchange – buying aircraft made in India from Indian components requires no foreign exchange
Trade balance – buying aircraft made in India avoids imports.
Corruption – it appears that deals with foreign suppliers of aircraft are more prone to corruption.
The IAF has a requrement for 125-200 MRCA in the near future. The Indian aviation sector is not capable of producing such aircraft yet. Making an order for these aircraft dependent on TOT to enable India to make its own sophisticated aircraft in the future is an opportunity that cannot be missed. India could have its own fast jet industry in 10-20 years if it can acquire the necessary technology through the MMRCA purchase. The alternative you suggest (buying F-35) would neither advance India’s political strategy (to gain independence in use of defence assets) nor its industrial strategy (to become capable of producing sophisticated state of the art military aircraft).
By the way, I think that the UK has ordered 2 F-35 aircraft so far for the purpose of evaluating the aircraft.
Lit up a candle i’m gonna defend eurofighter 😉
i think main diffs between Captor E versions are software blocks.
I retract the LOL then, perhaps. Any idea what the export version doesn’t do (presumably) that the 4 partner version does?
I had to double take at first, hehe.
About Captor-E, there’s three, I think variants… Basically, Radar-1 for export, Radar-2 to meet the four consortium member requirements, and Radar-3 to meet the UK’s requirements which is built on Britain’s Bright Adder AESA radar.
LOL …Sorry but this is how NOT to do things cost-effectively.
Don’t you mean Toan, Spitefire9?
Thanks for picking up on that. Sorry Loke/Toan. My mistake.
Thanks for posting that, Loke. What can one say? The idea of selling an expensive non-AESA MRCA on its technical merits is a non-starter today.
I think Snecma was involved in a deal with India to help them fix the issues with their Kaveri engine, however it seems it failed. Perhaps the French were not willing to share some key engine technologies with the Indians after all? I don’t blame them though.
If you don’t want to sell what a buyer wants to buy there are no grounds for a deal. If the buyer needs the deal to include X,Y and Z but the seller does not want to sell all those any further discussion is a waste of time for both parties.
Found this posted 05 June 2013 on typhoon.starstreak. NB no source given by writer:
“Local press is reporting that Lockheed would not participate in price bidding starting next week. Rather, the bid price would be replaced with a price schedule estimate which has no legal binding to be honored by the JSF Office. Essentially, the JSF Office threw the towel.
This is causing an alarm at the DAPA, which was using the F-35 to put a pricing pressure on both Boeing and Cassidian Spain.”
http://typhoon.starstreak.net/forum/viewtopic.php?f=1&t=2034&start=870
Anyone know if there is any truth in what was written?