So one minute the compliant is about the intrusion of the nanny state then the next the moan is about people doing “dangerous” things.

Hypocritical? Oh yes.

While individual cases are clearly tragic, the violent crime rate and the murder rate are decreasing and have done so for a few years now.

Perhaps something is working after all.

Well they’ve been a long time thinking about it. That article is from 2011. :highly_amused:

That’s very interesting. My father was brought up in Purfleet and went to school in Aveley and has been compiling a little history of his own. He has been trying to find out more about wartime incidents that he recalled. I wonder if he knows about the archive in Chelmsford.

Me, I can’t wait to see all the ‘No’ politicians in the Scottish government, who many Scots will deem traitors and Quislings after independence, try to ingratiate themselves back into power again!

And isn’t that exactly the problem with Salmond’s divisive policy. He is not only threatening to split the UK but families and communities. All for what?

Those that disagree with you are entitled to their opinion just as much as you are.

I’m not sure you would normally use the wing down technique all the way to touch down though…….

It be described as “normal” and a “non-event” but I would imagine a passenger would not necessarily agree with you. I’m not sure I do either.

Well I’ve had a think about Moggy’s provocative comments and I hope I’ve answered them. Not that he cares apparently

In a few words

1) A solution to the West Lothian issue
A bit of a red herring and a consequence of the way our parliament is set up. On the face of it seems unfair but only a very few policies have been affected by it. It has become less of an issue after devolution.

2) The unlikelihood of the Labour Party ever gaining control of the Westminster parliament and hence the economy ever again
So Moggy – you’re quite happy with the thought that the Tories will be perpetually in power?
I suspect he would be but he would be wrong. In recent times only the result second 1974 election would have been different without Scottish MPs

3) It relieves the rest of the UK of all liabilities for the two major, and faltering banks.
Why would the UK be relieved? They may have ‘Scotland’ in their names, and are based there, but in reality they are very little to do with us anymore – 80% of the Royal Bank of Scotland is owned by the UK government, and the Bank of Scotland, HBOS, was taken over by Lloyds.
Can’t argue with that

4) Whilst currently subsidies paid to Scotland roughly equate to taxes received from N Sea Oil, this will not continue to be in balance as production declines
I’m not sure I understand this. Scotland will stop getting subsidies if a YES vote is successful so the shortfall will have to be found elsewhere. I would have thought that this is a point in favour of the union rather than independence but whatever.

5) The lavish spending of the current Scottish government – social spending per head in Scotland is 13% greater than in the remainder of the UK – will no longer fall on non-Scottish taxpayers
Lavish spending? You make the higher social spending sound like a bad thing. Better the money spent on our citizens than on follies like Trident!
I know! Imagine spending to help people. Rather than have a go at the Scottish government, ask yourself why England hasn’t made the same provisions? We all want tax cuts don’t we? Rather than pay for our children’s education or to care for the elderly. Statistics are great though, there are others that show that social spending in Scotland is less than the rest of the UK.

6) The Scots will apparently be much happier outside the UK – Who are we to deny them of that happiness?
More sneering contemptuousness…
Well quite but not all Scots want to be outside of the UK.

After stating how you were laughing at the guy and that you were happy to leave him in ignorance you’re not on very solid ground to criticise debating technique are you?. For my part I’d like to see you address the errors in some of his points…most notably no.s 4 & 5

I am rather criticizing his statement about not caring about what others think when it suits (or when he has lost the argument – again :o)