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  • in reply to: Bader #1264782
    Malcolm McKay
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    Well the text on his site regarding the phone call in Sydney is –

    1976 – Thirty Four Years Later Douglas Bader visited Australia (where I live as a permanent resident) in August 1976 to participate as an official in an air race from Perth, Western Australia to Sydney, and I discovered that he was staying in a Sydney Hotel during his visit.With the full knowledge of my wife Joan, I decided I would try to make contact with him “For old times sake” and phoned his hotel when I was fortunate enough to be able to talk to him albeit very briefly. I asked him if he remembered being in Liverpool some time in 1942, and did he recall a young man helping him at The Stork Hotel each morning to dress and fit his legs –To all these questions he replied, Yes, he did remember being there as I had described in my website book. I then told him that I was that young man, hoping he would show some enthusiasm and perhaps arrange for us to meet and have a drink and a chat.To my complete amazement he responded by saying words along the lines,”Well, that’s very nice and thank you for calling me, goodbye!”My wife Joan who heard my side of the conversation will testify as to how disappointed I was at the reception I was given but the incident passed without any further thoughts on the matter. AT this time I was still not aware of any apparent anomaly in my story regarding Douglas Bader.

    Which seems to me as a neutral observer to be nothing more than a polite response with no hint of recognition.

    But I could be wrong. 🙂

    in reply to: Bader #1264791
    Malcolm McKay
    Participant

    Just so. Of course he also claims that Bader confirmed the meeting years later in a brief phone conversation, but as we know Bader did not suffer fools gladly (or indeed at all) and so I would imagine if the alleged conversation ever did take place, Bader would have summed up the person on the other end of the phone pretty sharply and got rid of them asap.

    It’s clear that if Williams wants to claim any respectabilty and credibility, then he must produce irrefutable evidence and quote infallible sources!!

    Yes that phone call must have been interesting, no one can verify it, except his wife but all she would have heard was Mr Williams’ end of the conversation – I suspect that Bader probably just said words to the effect “Excuse me I think you might have the wrong number” or “No I’m not available to autograph your copy of Reach for the Sky“.

    Of course the exact wording may have been somewhat different 🙂

    in reply to: Bader #1264919
    Malcolm McKay
    Participant

    Bader Doppleganger?

    http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v634/Mark12/Album%203/hodgki49.jpg

    Interesting suggestion – he does bear a passing resemblance. Also given the nature of the print media of the time perhaps Mr Williams could have made a simple misidentification which was compounded by someone telling him it was Bader as a joke.

    After all Mr Williams was, what? 17 at the time. It is a bit of a gullible age. I shudder to think how easily I was fooled at that age – damn long time ago now. 😮

    in reply to: Bader #1264975
    Malcolm McKay
    Participant

    I go away for a day and that just adds credence to the rumour that I dont exist….although, thankfully, I no longer do as far as dear old Ken is concerned! I have to say that the only thing more bizarre and entertaining than Ken’s version of the Bader story has been reading some of the posts here although it really did get rather tired and tedious long ago and we also seem to now be facing a resurgence of Malcolm McKay’s sarky-ologists jibes to boot. Time to move on, perhaps? Andy Saunders

    Jibed? No I just went off on another tack 😀

    Actually I had thought that the whole business of the leg drop has been known for many many years. Interesting to see the telex but hardly news.

    Anyway allow me to offer my apologies for my temerity in having a little fun, and also allow me to wish you the complements of the season. 🙂

    in reply to: Bader #1265109
    Malcolm McKay
    Participant

    I see the Bader TV programme thread was locked.

    An interesting document to hand this week.

    Mark

    http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v634/Mark12/Album%203/Email0625.jpg

    In answer to Dave H’s heartfelt plea, I woud suggest that we have followed the plot, and we have discovered another fact, a pair of bollox were dropped in a brown envelope marked OHMS.

    This is indeed truly Karmic. Last week the Dalai Lama and I once again meditated over the tin appendage and clearly saw the brown envelope and saw that it was indeed bolloxs.

    Ohms Mane Padme Um

    in reply to: Bader #1265168
    Malcolm McKay
    Participant

    That would be in the Stirling bomber then would it? Thus proving the fundamental interconnectedness of all things.:)

    Yes, indeed there is a cosmic interconnectedness in all of this. This is the very thing that I and the Dalai Lama discussed at the Stork Hotel in 1957 while contemplating that solitary tin leg.

    We have meditated and become at one with the leg, and followed a path of karmic revelation to embrace the truth of that dark day in 1941 when a extremity lacking pilot asked for assistance in donning his walking tackle. We have also established that his wedding tackle was posted over later in a plain brown envelope bearing only the cryptic symbols OHMS.

    OHMS? what can that mean? Is it the first word in the mantra Ohms Mane Padme Um or has it a deeper meaning. Perhaps we will never know – there are things of which it is far better that the human mind is unaware.

    Also revealed by this mystic confluence of the greatest minds of the 21st century is the answer to the Chinese Stirling mystery. Time truly does reveal all.

    Truly my brother seekers of truth we have followed the path to enlightenment.

    Now I’ll be mother – anyone for Yak butter with your tea?

    in reply to: Bader #1265876
    Malcolm McKay
    Participant

    That would be a low ball.

    So there is truth in the rumour that Chiang Kai Shek’s personal pilot One Hung Low was seen at the Stork hotel in 1941. This explains the rumour that, late at night, someone was playing chopsticks on the the piano in the upstairs parlour.

    It also answers the other question as to who flew Bader back to Germany because the Chinese had not declared war on Germany at that stage. Obviously a pilot from a neutral country was the answer.

    However the posting of the bollox must have come later – truly a miracle of war time surgery to make them detachable in such a way that they could be fitted later.

    😀

    in reply to: Bader #1265900
    Malcolm McKay
    Participant

    You are posting bollox.

    Bader had his bolloxes posted to him? Well I suppose it was more humane than dropping them in an air raid.

    😀

    in reply to: Bader #1265912
    Malcolm McKay
    Participant

    transmogrification

    Is that the process by which one becomes a moderator here? This is all so mystical how the random threads come together to create unity.

    :dev2:

    in reply to: Bader #1265931
    Malcolm McKay
    Participant

    I think it’s the Tibetan royal family that are Penguins. 😉

    Aaaah it all comes back – Stork Hotel, Liverpool, 1957 …… strange chanting ….. incense …… Yak butter ….. What it was to be young and foolish. The Dalai Lama and myself arguing into the small hours about Buddhism and the karmic significance of this odd tin appendage holding up one end of the table.

    Those were the days …………….

    😀

    in reply to: Bader #1266057
    Malcolm McKay
    Participant

    the Royal family really being lizards.

    Damn and here I had it on good authority that they were King Penguins – so hard to keep up these days.

    😀

    in reply to: Bader #1266111
    Malcolm McKay
    Participant

    Oh…goodeee….this is starting to get almost as much fun as the Bader TV Prog thread. Why was it locked, anyway? Just curious.

    Because “Sarky Arkies” and “Haaaawwwk Spiiiit Anoraks with Shovels” got to discussing things in the usual reasonable and intelligent fashion that is found on public fora.

    Also I think it may have run its course.

    As for the statement re Mr Williams and Christmas spirit I see nothing upsetting or uncharitable about that. I have personal experience of a self-opinioned old fart (moi) and it is necessary to cut them slack, the meds occasionally don’t work 😀

    🙂

    in reply to: Museums and Radiation #1266275
    Malcolm McKay
    Participant

    Damn James its my high horse and I’m enjoying the view 😀

    I put my ascerbic response down to several years spent dealing with the “authorities” in my day job on behalf of a large number of people. I have seen the official mind at work and it is not pretty.

    On the topic, it seems to me that the risks of radioactive instruments needs to be known among those in contact with them, and also needs a degree of legislation to protect the general public, plus guidance and legislation to protect the professionals. What we have in the UK (from the EU) and elsewhere seems somewhat over-prescriptive, which is a pity.

    Which is the point I was making – the difficulty of breathing in Melbourne at the moment due to the smoke from the horrendous bushfires is perhaps making me a trifle grumpy.

    My apologies – however I do prefer to have the ultimate choices left to me.

    🙂

    in reply to: Museums and Radiation #1266287
    Malcolm McKay
    Participant

    Quite right. And the Nuremberg reference was unpleasant.

    DS

    I work on the principle that I allow experts to point out real or imagined dangers then leave the final choice to me. I am well educated enough to be able to determine if there is actually a threat to myself and therefore reserve the right to make a personal choice.

    I dislike intensely being treated like an ill-educated idiot by well-meaning public servants, especially the ones who use as their mantra they are only doing what they are told or what “they” perceive to be best.

    And to the idiot who suggested it, I am not trolling, I am just someone who is sick and tired of being made to adhere to codswallop decisions made by collective groups of cotton wool manufacturers.

    I have seen and read enough of the debate over the radioactivity of instrument faces with intact glas to be quite aware that there is no conclusive evidence to settle the matter either way and this debate has been going on long enough for a conclusion to have been reached by now. Ergo there is no immediate threat unless you are silly enough to eat the stuff – and if you do that well then it is only the human gene pool that will benefit.

    Therefore the real argument is based on whether or not some organization will be sued by some chancer with a bogus case. It is not a public health issue.

    The Nuremberg reference is positively benign compared with the alternate world the cotton wool packers would have us live in.

    in reply to: Museums and Radiation #1267555
    Malcolm McKay
    Participant

    As a retired Health and Safety Professional, I take exception to the negative attitudes displayed in this thread. It is so easy to ridicule those who, working in your best interests, in most cases have training and knowledge that justifies their actions.

    Some rebuttals:

    “C” grade passes – Have you any idea of the training required to be registered as a Safety Professional? As well as being retired from IOSH, I was also a Chartered Engineer.

    Asbestos – why don’t you try discussing this with the family of one of the thousands who will die this year from the effects of working with asbestos?

    Radiation – Can you guarantee without a simple radiation measurement that there is no leakage or cracked glass or external contamination. – and yes, I do know about radiation, having worked in a company that made radiation detectors.

    I agree that a sense of proportion (officially called risk assessment) has to be applied, but just consider what your reaction would be if one of your children became ill after visiting an Air Museum (or any other Museum for that matter)?

    Cheers,

    Ian. (Whose Enstrom was fortunately built in the late 70’s!)

    Sorry but that’s the Nuremberg defense made famous in the late 40s by a number of Germany luminaries who claimed they were only doing what they were told.

    There comes a time when plain old common sense must overrule public servants.

    Revenge of the C pass students rules 😡

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