I want the US to give Georgia F-22s and F-35s, and then we’ll have a look at the “ratios” – which would be of lots of destroyed Georgian aircraft and few for the Russians – which really, the Russians would have destroyed probably still on Georgian airfields – which, really, wouldn’t tell us much of anything either, much like your loved ratios.

I’d like to see the United States provide Georgia with an effective air defense network that includes THAAD and a nuclear reactor that’s capable of enriching Uranium for nuclear weapons as well. Turnabout is fair play.;)

If the United States did provide Georgia with F-22’s and F-35’s as well as training for their pilots, the russians would be wise to not f0ck with them. The russian air force is just too poorly trained and too inexperienced in modern air to air warfare to take on a modern, well-trained foe. Their pilots rarely fly and aside from some dog fighting in the Korean war and some aerial warfare involving civilian airliners, they really haven’t done much air-to-air work since WWII. That, combined with technologically inferior weaponry would spell disaster for the russian air force.

i.e. a ship the size of Kuznetsov could possibly just be built in Russia…

Maybe, but why would they want to? Kuznetsov is a heap o’ crap that’s constantly plagued with problems. I’ll bet that thing has spent more time in the shipyard being repaired than it has at sea. And I’ll bet any Kuznetsov successor would be equally crappy.

Russia should apologize to the Indians, give them their money back and just forget about building any more carriers.

Hello All!

Does anyone can tell me how many pages directly related to Tu-128 there are inside the “Heavy Soviet Interceptors”, by Yefim Gordon?

Thanks in advance!

Why don’t you just buy the book?
You can pick up a copy for about 25 bucks.
HERE’S the link;)

HMS Illustrious steams up the Thames to London

UK Royal Navy aircraft carrier HMS Illustrious steamed up the river Thames yesterday to the City of London with a full-scale model of the Lockheed Martin F-35 Joint Strike Fighter displayed at the foot of her ski jump.

The 26-year-old ship is spending eight days moored adjacent to the historic Old Royal Naval College at Greenwich as part of Remembrance Sunday commemorations.

The journey to Greenwich involved a “squeeze” through the Thames Barrier and a 180° turn adjacent to the Isle of Dogs, which was undertaken with the help of tugs and three Thames river pilots who were on board. The 22,500t ship was then towed backwards further up the river to her Greenwich mooring.

“HMS Illustrious is glad to be back in London and among friends,” says the ship’s commanding officer Capt Steve Chick. “The ship is affiliated to several organisations within London and we are very appreciative of such relationships.”

While there are no plans for HMS Illustrious to operate the JSF, the aircraft is destined to replace the BAE Systems Harrier GR7/9s flown by the UK’s Joint Force Harrier group from the second half of the next decade. By then Illustrious and her sisters Ark Royal and Invincible are due to have been replaced by the Royal Navy’s two 65,000t Queen Elizabeth-class CVF future aircraft carriers.

http://www.flightglobal.com/articles/2008/11/05/318457/pictures.html

More pics

Dude, could you like scale your pics down a bit before you post ’em

Thanks in advance;)

Whoo Hooo!

Whoo Hooo!
They’re almost there:rolleyes:

Russian warship passes through Suez on way to Somalia coast

MOSCOW, October 21 (RIA Novosti) – A missile frigate from Russia’s Baltic Fleet will pass through the Suez Canal on Tuesday en route to the Somalia coast to join an international naval group fighting sea piracy in the region, a senior Navy official said.

The Neustrashimy (Fearless) missile frigate left the main naval base in Russia’s Baltic exclave of Kaliningrad in late September and participated in joint drills with a Russian naval task force in the Mediterranean.

“The ship’s task is to escort and protect Russian vessels or ships with Russian crewmembers on board from pirate attacks [off the Somali coast],” the source said.

The ship’s armament includes SS-N-25 Switchblade anti-ship missiles, SA-N-9 Gauntlet SAM, a 100-mm gun, torpedoes and depth charges. The frigate also carries a Ka-27 ASW helicopter.

In the beginning of October, Somali Ambassador to Russia Mohamed Handule said his country’s president, Abdullahi Yusuf Ahmed, had given permission for Russia’s military to tackle pirates both off Somalia’s coast and on land.

Pirates are increasingly active in the waters off Somalia, which has no effective government and no navy to police its coastline. According to foreign estimates Somali pirates have seized more than 60 ships so far this year off the coast of the east African nation demanding a ransom in exchange for their release.

They recently hijacked a Ukrainian ship, the MV Faina, carrying at least 33 tanks and other heavy weaponry. Six U.S. warships are currently in the area around the Faina and are monitoring the situation.link

Hahaha…

I’m afraid that by the time these Russkie clowns arrive on scene all the pirates will have died of old age.:p

Even if the didn’t fall for it I can assure you 100% that the west is not going to risk getting flatted beyond recognition over Georgia.

Russia isn’t going to get into a nuclear exchange over Georgia and their conventional forces would have a hard time fighting their way out of a wet paper bag, let alone take on the west. Heck, I’ll bet the U.S./NATO could kick that rabble outta Georgia faster than Iraq was kicked outta Kuwait and there would be very little the Russians could do about it.

Instead of putting 10 interceptors in central Europe the U.S. should put in 10,000;)

Pentagon officials announce plans to rebuild the Georgian military.

WASHINGTON — President Bush escalated the American response Wednesday to Russian military action in Georgia, ordering a humanitarian aid effort and dispatching Secretary of State Condoleezza Rice to the stricken region as Pentagon officials announced plans to rebuild the Georgian military.

Speaking in the Rose Garden, Bush accused Russia of seizing territory in Georgia and continuing its military campaign despite agreeing to a cease-fire.
link

They’ll get F-16’s;)

War is absurd, says Russian pilot shot down over Georgia

By Shaun Walker in Tbilisi
Saturday, 16 August 2008

Most of the patients in the labyrinthine Gudushauri Hospital on the eastern outskirts of Tbilisi are being treated for injuries suffered during the Russian invasion, with more than 600 people admitted in the past few days.

But in one corridor, sealed off by eight black-clad guards armed with Kalashnikov rifles, there were two patients very different from the rest.

Vyacheslav Markovich and Igor Zinov were not fleeing from the Russian attack, they were leading it. On 9 August, their planes were hit by anti-aircraft fire, forcing them to eject and parachute to the ground. Georgia claims to have destroyed 15 planes during the conflict, killing two Russian pilots and capturing a further two during the first days of the conflict.

Georgia intends to negotiate with Russia to exchange them for captured Georgian soldiers, the Interior Ministry said.

The Russian patients said they were being treated well. Both are bed-bound and are held in separate rooms, although their guards have kept them updated on the progress of the war.

Flying Officer Zinov, 50, who suffered more serious injuries than his compatriot, refused to be interviewed, saying that he was in pain and did not want to talk. He confirmed that he was being treated well by Georgian doctors and had been visited by representatives of the Orthodox Church and the Red Cross. He suffered severe burns and was lying, unshaven and weary, in a white vest. MORE

Fifty seems a little old to be flying combat missions.

Why do you suppose the Russians are using senior citizens to fly combat missions?