RpRYou are much, much more likely to be killed in either the US or the UK by a white ‘christian’ than a muslim or a hindu or a buddhist if for no other reason than they form such a small percentage of the population of either country —- Well maybe in your version of Neverland but here are the stats for one year, oh yes religion is not asked, so your prejudice is pointless .
http://https://www.fbi.gov/about-us/cjis/ucr/crime-in-the-u.s/2013/crime-in-the-u.s.-2013/offenses-known-to-law-enforcement/expanded-homicide/expanded_homicide_data_table_6_murder_race_and_sex_of_vicitm_by_race_and_sex_of_offender_2013.xlsRpR, the liberal candidate by definition was more intelligent than Palin.
Based on what premise, other than magic?
RpRYou are much, much more likely to be killed in either the US or the UK by a white ‘christian’ than a muslim or a hindu or a buddhist if for no other reason than they form such a small percentage of the population of either country —- Well maybe in your version of Neverland but here are the stats for one year, oh yes religion is not asked, so your prejudice is pointless .
http://https://www.fbi.gov/about-us/cjis/ucr/crime-in-the-u.s/2013/crime-in-the-u.s.-2013/offenses-known-to-law-enforcement/expanded-homicide/expanded_homicide_data_table_6_murder_race_and_sex_of_vicitm_by_race_and_sex_of_offender_2013.xlsRpR, the liberal candidate by definition was more intelligent than Palin.
Based on what premise, other than magic?
RpR14 people murdered by Muslims so the septics get their knickers in a twist. So how many young school age people have been murdered by non Muslims in the past few years? Come on then Trump ban Guns as well as Muslims then!
Aggressive, intimidating, and unfazed by the truth, Dona;d Trump single-handedly whipped 2015s USA into a frenzy Islamic fear and paranoia. —- LOL, what truth?
Joe McCarthy rides again
If you say so.
It is sad to see you value some lives more than others but have a paranoid fear of firearms, how very sad.
Let us see, our president said there was no real terror threat in our country, 14 people are murdered by persons, which it now turns out, had dealings with foreign terrorist groups for years while passing through Obama’s thorough vetting by immigration officials, without any challenge, so the day after a terrorist attack kill 14 people, all our attorney general says is our government rather than deal with terrorists will prosecute people who say bad things about Muslims.
To say Trump has done anything is simply moronic chatter by the ignorant.
RpR14 people murdered by Muslims so the septics get their knickers in a twist. So how many young school age people have been murdered by non Muslims in the past few years? Come on then Trump ban Guns as well as Muslims then!
Aggressive, intimidating, and unfazed by the truth, Dona;d Trump single-handedly whipped 2015s USA into a frenzy Islamic fear and paranoia. —- LOL, what truth?
Joe McCarthy rides again
If you say so.
It is sad to see you value some lives more than others but have a paranoid fear of firearms, how very sad.
Let us see, our president said there was no real terror threat in our country, 14 people are murdered by persons, which it now turns out, had dealings with foreign terrorist groups for years while passing through Obama’s thorough vetting by immigration officials, without any challenge, so the day after a terrorist attack kill 14 people, all our attorney general says is our government rather than deal with terrorists will prosecute people who say bad things about Muslims.
To say Trump has done anything is simply moronic chatter by the ignorant.
RpRWell let’s see, we have liberal Hillary running and when questioned about her involvement, or lack thereof, while Secretary of State and four people were murdered, after Obama helped get rid of Qaddafi in Libya, including the Ambassador, she said: “What difference does it make?”
If Palin was an idiot what does that make the liberal candidate?
Oh yes then there is this bit from Loretta Lynch, the Attorney General picked by President Obama.
This was her only comment the day after 14 people were murdered by Muslims. She said nothing about stopping other attacks, or the people who would commit them.
RpRWell let’s see, we have liberal Hillary running and when questioned about her involvement, or lack thereof, while Secretary of State and four people were murdered, after Obama helped get rid of Qaddafi in Libya, including the Ambassador, she said: “What difference does it make?”
If Palin was an idiot what does that make the liberal candidate?
Oh yes then there is this bit from Loretta Lynch, the Attorney General picked by President Obama.
This was her only comment the day after 14 people were murdered by Muslims. She said nothing about stopping other attacks, or the people who would commit them.
RpRInteresting.
Do you not feel the fact that anyone with an IQ larger than their shoe size can see that his ideas are impractical (actually ‘stupid’ would be a better word) should have some bearing on his suitability for a role that would put him in charge of a nuclear arsenal?
Moggy
The nuke item has never influenced my vote, regardless of who was running.
I am not afraid, nor have ever been, even as a child, afraid of nuclear war, it is not coming.
As far as IQ, what we have now is the only president that will not release his college transcript so I doubt Trump is less intelligent than Obama.
The people in this country are tired of lying professional politicians; among the republicans, that pretend to not be professional politicians but are already in politics, every now and then they let say something that looks too much like the basic lies they float to get your vote and then after getting elected ignore what the people want.
The Republicans at this point have again started, rather than show they are better than the Dem. they might oppose, started attacking each other but in this case simply attacking Trump for not spewing out the required Rino lie to sucker the people.
They hate him partly because he is making them answer questions that were not asked before because they were not politically correct.
Even liberal journalists have said if not for Trump, the illegal aliens from Mexico would probably not have been much mentioned by any Republican candidate.
I did like Carly Fiorina at first, especially after the first debate and her answer to a question about a asinine remark Trump made about her was, “I know Donald, Trump is Trump” dropped it and concentrated on real issues about running the country BUT then when reporters kept with the remark that had nothing to do with running the country, instead of telling them to get over it, she changed her responses to the level of grade school — I rubber your glue … type asininities.
Her now often whiny rhetoric has made me far less impressed with her.
RpRInteresting.
Do you not feel the fact that anyone with an IQ larger than their shoe size can see that his ideas are impractical (actually ‘stupid’ would be a better word) should have some bearing on his suitability for a role that would put him in charge of a nuclear arsenal?
Moggy
The nuke item has never influenced my vote, regardless of who was running.
I am not afraid, nor have ever been, even as a child, afraid of nuclear war, it is not coming.
As far as IQ, what we have now is the only president that will not release his college transcript so I doubt Trump is less intelligent than Obama.
The people in this country are tired of lying professional politicians; among the republicans, that pretend to not be professional politicians but are already in politics, every now and then they let say something that looks too much like the basic lies they float to get your vote and then after getting elected ignore what the people want.
The Republicans at this point have again started, rather than show they are better than the Dem. they might oppose, started attacking each other but in this case simply attacking Trump for not spewing out the required Rino lie to sucker the people.
They hate him partly because he is making them answer questions that were not asked before because they were not politically correct.
Even liberal journalists have said if not for Trump, the illegal aliens from Mexico would probably not have been much mentioned by any Republican candidate.
I did like Carly Fiorina at first, especially after the first debate and her answer to a question about a asinine remark Trump made about her was, “I know Donald, Trump is Trump” dropped it and concentrated on real issues about running the country BUT then when reporters kept with the remark that had nothing to do with running the country, instead of telling them to get over it, she changed her responses to the level of grade school — I rubber your glue … type asininities.
Her now often whiny rhetoric has made me far less impressed with her.
RpRHere is a bit of non-political Americana:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9IR5gViigns&feature=youtu.be
http://https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ko2OkPXaKsA
http://https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=w5yLxoXvF9w&feature=youtu.be
This is from the much less well known 2015 NASGW National Association of Sporting Goods Wholesalers show in New Orleans, LA.
RpRHere is a bit of non-political Americana:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9IR5gViigns&feature=youtu.be
http://https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ko2OkPXaKsA
http://https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=w5yLxoXvF9w&feature=youtu.be
This is from the much less well known 2015 NASGW National Association of Sporting Goods Wholesalers show in New Orleans, LA.
RpRHe is no worse than the lying old bitch, whose husband was a man whore while she preaches the war on women, the Democrats are fronting so —- he says what voters have been thinking for a long time.
He does not put out a line of rah, rah lies like the Washington Insiders do to sucker the public.
As far as money goes, if you think the rest of the politicians are not extremely wealthy, well it is voters with that attitude that gave the swine infested chambers we now have in Washington.
One of the Dem. favorite old broads, Pelosi was elected on the back of her husband, who financed her campaign.
He owns and operates National Leasing Services plus he also was the owner of the Sacramento Mountain Lions of the United Football League.
So to use money to attack Trump is a fool’s folly.
If it is his immigration policy that set you off.
Trump is a monster, a madman and a vile racist. He’s just like Hitler. Or Jimmy Carter.
During the Iranian hostage crisis, Carter issued a number of orders to put pressure on Iran. Among these, Iranians were banned from entering the United States unless they oppose the Shiite Islamist regime or had a medical emergency.
Here’s Jimmy “Hitler” Carter saying it back in 1980.
Fourth, the Secretary of Treasury [State] and the Attorney General will invalidate all visas issued to Iranian citizens for future entry into the United States, effective today. We will not reissue visas, nor will we issue new visas, except for compelling and proven humanitarian reasons or where the national interest of our own country requires. This directive will be interpreted very strictly.
Apparently barring people from a terrorist country is not against “our values” after all. It may even be “who we are”. Either that or Carter was a racist monster just like Trump.
Meanwhile here’s how the Iranian students in the US were treated.
Carter orders 50,000 Iranian students in US to report to immigration office with view to deporting those in violation of their visas. On 27 December 1979, US appeals court allows deportation of Iranian students found in violation.
In November 1979, the Attorney General had given all Iranian students one month to report to the local immigration office. Around 7,000 were found in violation of their visas. Around 15,000 Iranians were forced to leave the US.
RpRHe is no worse than the lying old bitch, whose husband was a man whore while she preaches the war on women, the Democrats are fronting so —- he says what voters have been thinking for a long time.
He does not put out a line of rah, rah lies like the Washington Insiders do to sucker the public.
As far as money goes, if you think the rest of the politicians are not extremely wealthy, well it is voters with that attitude that gave the swine infested chambers we now have in Washington.
One of the Dem. favorite old broads, Pelosi was elected on the back of her husband, who financed her campaign.
He owns and operates National Leasing Services plus he also was the owner of the Sacramento Mountain Lions of the United Football League.
So to use money to attack Trump is a fool’s folly.
If it is his immigration policy that set you off.
Trump is a monster, a madman and a vile racist. He’s just like Hitler. Or Jimmy Carter.
During the Iranian hostage crisis, Carter issued a number of orders to put pressure on Iran. Among these, Iranians were banned from entering the United States unless they oppose the Shiite Islamist regime or had a medical emergency.
Here’s Jimmy “Hitler” Carter saying it back in 1980.
Fourth, the Secretary of Treasury [State] and the Attorney General will invalidate all visas issued to Iranian citizens for future entry into the United States, effective today. We will not reissue visas, nor will we issue new visas, except for compelling and proven humanitarian reasons or where the national interest of our own country requires. This directive will be interpreted very strictly.
Apparently barring people from a terrorist country is not against “our values” after all. It may even be “who we are”. Either that or Carter was a racist monster just like Trump.
Meanwhile here’s how the Iranian students in the US were treated.
Carter orders 50,000 Iranian students in US to report to immigration office with view to deporting those in violation of their visas. On 27 December 1979, US appeals court allows deportation of Iranian students found in violation.
In November 1979, the Attorney General had given all Iranian students one month to report to the local immigration office. Around 7,000 were found in violation of their visas. Around 15,000 Iranians were forced to leave the US.
RpRBut that sort of thing is well known – you’ve told us about it on this thread at least twice.
So, coupled with the lack of ammo, and therefore the need to bring it with you, plus the various different calibres required, it would appear to be easier (if we were planning a raid on a gun show, which we are not, and not this side of the Atlantic either) to just ram-raid the entrance or fire exit with your own guns and ammo in a 4×4. No dodgy unfireable guns, no wrong sized ammo, no trying to sneak past security, just the full blown element of surprise. Don’t forget that the terrorist attackers won’t be weighed down with any thoughts of survival since, for them, it is a suicide mission – unlike all those show-goers and the intervening police – so their main requirement would be to generate shock and terror through death, destruction, and media headlines.
If there were some incredibly stupid, morons, (I do not call them terrorists as they would strike terror in no one) who wanted to be sure to commit suicide in an area where they knew they would have an armed opponent and massive response, yes, then what you describe may happen.
All goblin shooters dead and some law enforcement persons possibly dead. (Dealers may have loaded firearms at non-NRA gunshows so the return fire would become massive in short order.)
At an NRA event the law enforcement is so high, depending on location, they may or may not get close enough to not be on the defense from the get-go .
I do have to admit you have raised my curiosity as to how the press would report such an attack, regardless of results, although I can guess at what one might be:
NRA cannot defend itself against terrorist attack. President calls for stricter gun laws.
RpRBut that sort of thing is well known – you’ve told us about it on this thread at least twice.
So, coupled with the lack of ammo, and therefore the need to bring it with you, plus the various different calibres required, it would appear to be easier (if we were planning a raid on a gun show, which we are not, and not this side of the Atlantic either) to just ram-raid the entrance or fire exit with your own guns and ammo in a 4×4. No dodgy unfireable guns, no wrong sized ammo, no trying to sneak past security, just the full blown element of surprise. Don’t forget that the terrorist attackers won’t be weighed down with any thoughts of survival since, for them, it is a suicide mission – unlike all those show-goers and the intervening police – so their main requirement would be to generate shock and terror through death, destruction, and media headlines.
If there were some incredibly stupid, morons, (I do not call them terrorists as they would strike terror in no one) who wanted to be sure to commit suicide in an area where they knew they would have an armed opponent and massive response, yes, then what you describe may happen.
All goblin shooters dead and some law enforcement persons possibly dead. (Dealers may have loaded firearms at non-NRA gunshows so the return fire would become massive in short order.)
At an NRA event the law enforcement is so high, depending on location, they may or may not get close enough to not be on the defense from the get-go .
I do have to admit you have raised my curiosity as to how the press would report such an attack, regardless of results, although I can guess at what one might be:
NRA cannot defend itself against terrorist attack. President calls for stricter gun laws.
RpR‘Might injure someone’? I like your optimism but unless the defence is forewarned and ready then the attackers initially hold all the cards; the shock of being under attack and panic from those trapped and under fire won’t help. There will be deaths. —- 😀 Anytime anyone picks up a firearm at a gunshow their are many, many eyes on that person, whether the seller, the Law, or simply others attending.
Guns must now be made temp. inoperable or they do not get in. For some one to start the task of making a firearm capable to chamber a round means his/her chance of success is some where between none and next to none.
BUT, I MUST add, at some gun shows knives are also sold and to stop one from grabbing one and start slashing, the odds are that people would be hurt and possibly killed.Nope, never heard of her – but she certainly seems to be more along your line of thinking than mine… —- No she is a fairly well known liberal journalist who vocally hates and insults conservatives and firearms, very your style.
You mean they are not even a little bit like the KKK, with hoods, secret handshakes and burning crosses? How disappointing.
No, no much closer to the British Parliament.;)
Headquarters is 22 miles from DC.
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