In a six barrel Gatling-gun each barrel not only moves causing air cooling but fires only on sixth of total rounds fired in a burst.

It is not more or less accurate as the barrels do not loosen in the collet.
They shoot where they are pointed to converge, in the collet at a point which is found by mounting the aircraft on a cradle to determine at what point bullets converge to a point and then diverge just as paired revolver type cannons do.

The single barrel 37mm cannon on the Mig-15 was said to be not very accurate or reliable but pilots said if one round hit you, that single round was capable of destroying your aircraft.

To a degree size simply does count more than quantity as bullets start reaching an inch in diameter which is what the Russian standard caliber is with-in fractions of.
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TooCool:

You are correct about the F-8, the Six pilots said that when the Navy pilots came over, they would say, and this was when the F-14 was already a veteran, that in a dogfight they would choose the F-8 over anything in the inventory.

As an aside, F-102 pilots used to tell Six pilots that the Deuce had a mach 3 canopy, mach 2 airframe and a mach 1 engine.
The sad thing is, the Deuce was designed to take the J75, it would have slipped right in.
It was not supposed to be using the early J57 it had.

Another point: the Viet Cong were not Chinese. But then those Asians (or commies?) are all the same, right? :rolleyes:

No moron war is war and as I said but you did not quote to make an asinine statement, human nature and therefore; the nature of was does not change.

People actually think the PLAF’s tactic is fighter swarms?
That is absurd.

There is nothing to say they will not as in past encounters the Chinese have always used mass numbers.

There have been a number of articles in Aviation Week & Space Technology print magazine that say this is the greatest concern for the U.S. Air Force whose simple numbers of aircraft are not near what they once were.
Added to this, the articles have said that when in war, the skies become crowded BVR can become useless unless one is willing to chance shooting down ones own aircraft and in basic air to air combat the U.S. does not have the advantage it does in BVR conflict, assuming the opposing pilots are well trained.
Friendly fire deaths are something the U.S. military has serious concerns about whether land, sea or air.

In a war of attrition those with the most, regardless of technology will win.

If you are speaking of any of these aircraft saddled with missiles and radars of point q at point t in time , any comparison does not make much sense.

The F-106 radar system as used was far superior to anything else except for possibly Russian equivalents.

Sage could pick-up items hundreds of miles away and even the F-106 was more limited by the lacking of the Falcon missiles than anything else.

As an interceptor it was far, far better than the F-4 and I have heard this from pilots who flew both.
The F-106 site, which is run by people who flew and worked on them, will open peoples eyes as to how good it was, or could have been.
One real life case, by an ex-pilot told of a exchange Navy F-14 pilot, who came over and showed USAF pilots just how good it actually was when in an inter-service Top Gun type exercise he succeeded in technically shooting down all aircraft he was put against including Navy F-14s.
The Navy pilots comment on the aircraft was that it was a good airplane that would do what you wanted it to do.

The veteran pilots said they learned a lot about how capable the F-106 actually was when young, temporary assignment, pilots would come and show the veteran six pilots– who were superior at knowing how to use the complicated SAGE based system in the six, which some ADC pilots said it took a couple of years to fully be able to master fully– what the six was actually capable of doing in basic air to air combat against other fighters.
More than one generation 4 pilot found himself shot-down when the young guns who did not have to unlearn anything and used the six to the fullest capability of what it could do without following some text book on what it is supposed to do or not do.

The six was always flying clean, the pilots on the site said the tanks it used really did nothing to hamper its performance in any way including at high mach, so as an interceptor, or even if it had been used as a air-superiorty fighter, it was always fully armed and flying clean.
The nuclear weapon it carried, one wanted to clear the radius not as much to clear the blast as to get far enough away from the EMP would not screw the sixes electronics; at the same time the weapon was not designed to blow bombers out of the air, although the one to close to the detonation would probably have gone down, but the neutron blast from the nuclear Genie would render the nuclear bombs carried by the bombers impotent.
It would have destroyed the bombs ability to detonate.

The six was at least tested for other applications as I have seen at least on picture of a six with a anti-radiation missile on an outer pylon, and another with a AIM-26 on said same pylon.
The six was never modified to carry the AIM-26 missiles in the missile bay as development on Falcon missiles in the U.S. stopped.
Sweden developed the Falcon to the level and actually beyond that the USAF would have had the AIM-4H not been cancelled.
Far more capable than any used by the USAF.

The numbers one reads on the performance of the six are merely numbers put out there for the public and do not show what it actually could or could not do.
Pilots who flew it said they were reaching altitudes, in intercept missions, in times far shorter than the printed rate of climb said would be possible.
Also during one Air Force series of tests, they successfully intercepted and shot down, for real, BOMARC missles traveling at super sonic speed at altitudes above 80,000 ft.
This was done using the very sophisticated SAGE-fighter link that would direct or even fly the aircraft to a point where the aircraft’s radar and pilot would take over and finish using information calculated by the fighters very advanced black-boxes for correct missile launch.

How fast the aircraft would really go seems to be actually unknown as pilots said speed was limited by fuel more than anything else.
If you came back with fewer pounds of fuel than you should, you may find yourself explaining to some desk jockey what happened to all that fuel.
One pilot said the fastest he ever saw on his mach gauge was a little over 2.2 with all the gauges showing every things was below anything that approached a redline, the aircraft was still accelerating smoothly but his mission profile required a turn and any turn scrubs off speed.
In his opinion he said he could see no reason he could not reach and exceed the aircraft’s listed top speed.
This was with a full weapons load.

Another pilot, said that when he took over the squadron commanders aircraft when the commander retired, found out that the former commander had told ground crews to not touch anything in the cockpit that had to do with pilot control.
He said when he flew it for the first time, the cockpit seat and controls were to the level of an old chair with all the upholstery gone and the controls were as loose tp the point one had the feeling they were going to fall off but he said that was because the former commander, who was an old timer who could do things with a six that amazed other veterans, and he did not want anyone to change anything because the old commander knew exactly how the aircraft acted and reacted to every input simply because nothing was ever changed.
The new commander quickly had the aircraft sent in for an overhaul.

Any lacking of the F-106 had more to do with how screwed up the Pentagon was under R Strange McNamara than any failings with aircraft the Air Force was flying.
Paper specs. (as were two actual aircraft) fitting the F-106 with better radar were drawn up, one including the same radar used by the F-15, but the USAF, with R. Strange MacNamara in the Pentagon was busy running around like a chicken with its head cut-off.
McNamara not only stopped production of more F-105s, but had the tooling destroyed to it could not be done, as he was going to have the F-111 built regardless of anything.

I was under the impression that the OP meant to compare what jets of the Cold War could accomplish versus today’s fighters. The Cold War fighters would be hard pressed to keep up with modern fighters. Today’s fighters can start day one flying 3-4 sorties and sustain a tempo equal to day one tempo for a Cold War fighter.

The Cold War fighter would literally race to a merge. Today’s fighters would stay back and lob missiles from much greater distances than the Cold War fighter. Let’s not forget yesterday’s fire and forget missiles were heatseekers. Today’s version are command guidance with several options for terminal homing.

Technology to screw with the so called fire and forget missiles of today is far greater than that of the so called cold-war days.

Once the bullets start flying I have little doubt that air forces of either side will find, to their dismay, that the theoretical BVR war they intended to fight will be stuck up their buttocks with their paper-war plans.
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Wars are not like a political campaign with months or years of planning.
That something like the incident that started WWI cannot happen again is a fool’s folly.

They are all there Thobbes, among the 45 or so (maybe 50?) “coalition” aircraft shot down. But they are usually listed as SAM or “accidents”, and never admitted as being shot down air-to-air. Also, the process of actually crediting iraqi pilots with air-to-air kills was long and tortuous in many cases.

Dream on, that is all that amounts to.

Two pilots shot down by SAMs were captured as would have been any (or most) air to air kills.

Snitch

Not a bad movie at all.

It shows how cold bloodly narcissistic government insider higher-ups are.

Would the new 50 cal hand gun be allowed, or would they think it’s a bit OTT?.
Jim.
Lincoln .7

What new .50?

If you mean the one that is based on the length of a .45 ACP, if the department allowed free choice, there would be no problem.

The .50 AE cartridge of which the Desert Eagle is the only one left in production, besides being the joke of the dept., the simple physic of size and weight would make it impractical to anyone not at least six feet five inches or more and 220 lbs.

There are a goodly number of .50 revolvers but they are expensive and only have five shots.