They certainly don’t need me to tell them that, when they have had £78.000 worth of Cardio vascular equipment stolen, or the fact that across 110 NHS Trusts, 522 Laptops, containing thousands of patients records stolen.
What about Patient confidenciality contained on those computers?.I am afraid Kev, as usual, we will continue to disagree with each other. and as such, these are my last words on the subject.
Jim.
Lincoln .7
agreed they arn’t the best but you have to put it in context the NHS is about the 3rd largest employer in the world put the figures against another employer of the same size and they would probably be lower than most just how do you fully protect a large building like a hospital that needs to remain free flowing and at the same time is treating some of the dreggs of society ??
No Jim.
As always you avoid the issue. The issue here is partially that a mistake was made by leaving confidential material lying around. Surely, as a man of integrity and as an ex Police Officer of long standing, you have a full understanding of the concept of confidentiality and how important it is that confidentiality should be maintained. However, for no other reason than to satisfy your own curiosity, you breached the confidentiality of the patient whose notes you looked at. To me that says more about your lack of integrity than that of the staff on a busy ward.
The following link might be useful to you….
all medical documents are covered by confidentiality we even have to be careful we do not discuss one client infront of another it is all also legal documentation that is protected by confidentiality and the data protection act we often chase other clients that are being nosey and looking or listening in about other patients
No Jim.
As always you avoid the issue. The issue here is partially that a mistake was made by leaving confidential material lying around. Surely, as a man of integrity and as an ex Police Officer of long standing, you have a full understanding of the concept of confidentiality and how important it is that confidentiality should be maintained. However, for no other reason than to satisfy your own curiosity, you breached the confidentiality of the patient whose notes you looked at. To me that says more about your lack of integrity than that of the staff on a busy ward.
The following link might be useful to you….
all medical documents are covered by confidentiality we even have to be careful we do not discuss one client infront of another it is all also legal documentation that is protected by confidentiality and the data protection act we often chase other clients that are being nosey and looking or listening in about other patients
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BTW: My wife is a former UK Army nurse and former senior sister in the NHS.
We’ve discussed this,…and don’t kid yourself by thinking euthenasia does not currently happen in the NHS.
It happens every day…with the urging of the family and patient.John, your wife is absolutely correct.
It is done in a number of ways and as you say it is often done at the urging of both family and patient.
Euthanasia should be a right, we as humans are given rights throughout our lives, rights which are neither questioned or disputed. Why then should we not, in the right circumstance, have the right to determine our own end when the end is inevitable?
Regards,
kev35
actualy no it wont be !! hospitals have to be shown to have done everything reasonably possible to keep a person alive
in my fathers case they stopped treatment as one thing was setting another wrong so it was a struggle in vain so the only route was keeping him comfortable till the end and giving him dignity with his family in his last hours without a team crowding him
so it is quite difrent
but mostly they cannot make that dicision on thier own just because it is requested though , at that point courts have to be involved
[QUOTE=kev35;1909431]
BTW: My wife is a former UK Army nurse and former senior sister in the NHS.
We’ve discussed this,…and don’t kid yourself by thinking euthenasia does not currently happen in the NHS.
It happens every day…with the urging of the family and patient.John, your wife is absolutely correct.
It is done in a number of ways and as you say it is often done at the urging of both family and patient.
Euthanasia should be a right, we as humans are given rights throughout our lives, rights which are neither questioned or disputed. Why then should we not, in the right circumstance, have the right to determine our own end when the end is inevitable?
Regards,
kev35
actualy no it wont be !! hospitals have to be shown to have done everything reasonably possible to keep a person alive
in my fathers case they stopped treatment as one thing was setting another wrong so it was a struggle in vain so the only route was keeping him comfortable till the end and giving him dignity with his family in his last hours without a team crowding him
so it is quite difrent
but mostly they cannot make that dicision on thier own just because it is requested though , at that point courts have to be involved
the actual answer is that you resusitate them !! ( some fools do actualy have these tattoos same as dotted lines and cut here !! )
as you run the risk as a first aider for being sued for not helping
then if it is genuine you can fight the case in court if they decide to sue
the actual answer is that you resusitate them !! ( some fools do actualy have these tattoos same as dotted lines and cut here !! )
as you run the risk as a first aider for being sued for not helping
then if it is genuine you can fight the case in court if they decide to sue
i presently work as a mental health support worker and have quite a lot of medical dealings through my day to day work including being trained to give out medication and attending most hospital visits and writing reports on outcomes of said visits
an interesting scenario came up on a recent training course as i am also a qualified first aider
a guy collapses in the street upon reaching him you discover he has do not resusitate tattooed on his chest !! what actions do you take ??
i presently work as a mental health support worker and have quite a lot of medical dealings through my day to day work including being trained to give out medication and attending most hospital visits and writing reports on outcomes of said visits
an interesting scenario came up on a recent training course as i am also a qualified first aider
a guy collapses in the street upon reaching him you discover he has do not resusitate tattooed on his chest !! what actions do you take ??
not often i agree moggy but we are a very odd country if a dog is terminaly ill with no hope we do ” the kindest thing !” yet a person in the same predicament that can actualy request it we can ignore those pleas and let them continue along a no hope path in often severe pain
“humane country my **** !!”
not often i agree moggy but we are a very odd country if a dog is terminaly ill with no hope we do ” the kindest thing !” yet a person in the same predicament that can actualy request it we can ignore those pleas and let them continue along a no hope path in often severe pain
“humane country my **** !!”
Looks like I’ve been wasting my time.
far from it !! yours are superb i was just giving options on how others tackle it also
i apreciate anyone who can do such a good job as you have done in 1/72
mine often end up as crumpled heaps on the modelling board as carpal tunnel and patience gets the better of me and i flatten the little gits into the board !!
better not tackle the gotha bomber lurking in the stash just yet !!
being out in as few clothes as possible in torrential rain thunder and lightning storms
being on my motorcycle during the above
the fresh watery smell of the lodges when fishing and for the above
countryside sounds around where i live owls , vixens screams ( misnomer as both do it ) , church bells , horses , swallows darting around in the summer months
the cockrell that used to sleep on my horses back in his stable then raised holy hell at 5am on a winters morning as i put my horses rug on in the dark to turn him out ( boy i miss them both )
jumping in a hot bath after a motorcycle ride in the rain
fruit polos
spring rolls
real ale
smell of steam engines and old cars/motorcycles
being out in as few clothes as possible in torrential rain thunder and lightning storms
being on my motorcycle during the above
the fresh watery smell of the lodges when fishing and for the above
countryside sounds around where i live owls , vixens screams ( misnomer as both do it ) , church bells , horses , swallows darting around in the summer months
the cockrell that used to sleep on my horses back in his stable then raised holy hell at 5am on a winters morning as i put my horses rug on in the dark to turn him out ( boy i miss them both )
jumping in a hot bath after a motorcycle ride in the rain
fruit polos
spring rolls
real ale
smell of steam engines and old cars/motorcycles
and that is the problem !! screw the EU there is a whole world out there to compete and trade with !!!
whilst we’re jumping through hoops to meet this and that EU standard adding to goods costs
thailand , india , china , etc etc has jumped in and is leading in sales
if you go to a local garage wich one do you chose ??
the one that gets your car in does a reasonable job with a quick turnover and charges a reasonable price
or one that takes ages through checking regs isn’t that much better than above ( reality about the same ) then stings you a small fortune
china and india etc weren’t a threat ten years ago the reality is that today they are and if if we don’t wake up and change attitudes to this new world order the uk may as well sink into the sea !!