I am not being pedantic, Linc, and I don’t think your fears have the remotest likelihood of being realised.:)

where do you live fella ??
a walk round my local bus station of an evening is like being in a benneton advert !!

and about 50 % of the white folks are talking eastern european languages !!

My advice would be that it would be a very good idea indeed to complete your form this time. After follow-up calls to chase missing forms then any definite refusal will be classed as a “Class A” refusal and end up with the Non-Compliance Team for action.

As to your suggestion that 99% of people are putting them in the bin (which I rather doubt!) then it looks as if us guys will be pretty busy, then!

mines in the bin and no threats will ever make me fill it in no matter how you word it !!

i am probably far from wrong but the cost to the government in admin to collect fines would far outweigh the actual revenue collected in fines

another brilliant government money loosing scheeme

the prisons are full to bursting , where’s the money going to come from to build more ??

suggestions on the back of a postcard to no 10 drowning st !!

Hi tornado 64, don’t you realise, just being on your comp, they can hack quite easily into it when your on it, and gather info you send and receive?.:diablo:

Lincoln .7

yep !! never worried me though being spied on and monitored is part of uk life

george orwell was spot on !!

i know about echelon

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/ECHELON

That G.A. is entirely their want if they wish, I would want to learn the lingo.
Now tell me why all these ex pats are still entitled to their state pensions, and also their annual heating allowance.when they chose to turn their backs on the Country which looked after them most of their lives.
C’mon, even you cant agree you need that in Spain, France, and Italy, they go and be ex pats, just to mainly be in the sunshine 365 or whatever the case may be.

Lincoln .7

actualy spain can and does get bloody cold in winter !!

although you have a fair point , year round bills on heating will be cheaper

i honestly believe ( apart from pensions ) that all benefits of the british system should be stopped when you emmigrate

another is comming back rapidly to use the national health

why didn’t they use the un needed heating allowance on health plans to be treated in their country of choice ??

I absolutely disagree with that, the census has long been a very important periodic log of what the make up our country and those living within it consists of, something we can pride ourselves on since the Doomsday Book of 1086 and the modern census of the past 210 years.
This is how we statistically know how mixed our population is, and lets not forget, immensely helpful for those of us that enjoy doing family trees and researching this country’s past.
I do think it is worth spending money on, but perhaps a little too much has been spent on presentation, management, etc on what should only be a form or two.

Hopefully Tornado’s friend (he did say 99%?!) will recieve the full penalty.

i’d accept that if governments actualy knew what they were doing with figures

and most historic family trees are taken from what is known as the register of electors !!

all the senseless does is collect information that is already held on you

put your hand on your heart and tell me ( without me laughing ) that a large percentage of immigrants are going to do that !!

hell there’s a big percentage dodging being caught ( i knew a few ) mainly kosovans when that conflict was on and talking to them could see why they fled

but the thing about asylum as it is defined is to escape to the first ” safe ” country , not the first lucrative one !!

i live and work in the uk

i have , national insurance , register of ellectors , paye , driving licence , pay rates ,

all my many details are already on the many government computers

all the information in the senseless is stuff they already know

and is held already yet we still give evermore information

at a time when the government said they are being over zealous about kept information on individuals

it is alegedley so they know where to spend money !!

all they are doing is cutting spending everywhere

so i realy cannot see a point in this old , outdated , farsicle system any longer

especialy as we are in an age where everything about us is held on computer

the money would be better spent on training government departments to talk to each other more effectively

or do you think it is acceptable for your local services to be cut

when money could have been found by scrapping this lunacy !!

. When I asked him about it he said that was only way he could get anyone to work there. Applications for jobs were studiously ignored by the English. And conditions were good and pay the average or just above average for the area. Says it all really, doesn’t it?

there are too many factors why that happens

i was out of work for 3 yrs ( and not ashamed to say it ) i have had to change jobs because of dissabillities in my arms

my new job is exceptionaly good conditions and above average pay

i have no debts and live humbly

i love the work i am doing now

yet my take home pay is around 200-300 pounds a month under what i need to basicaly scrimp by on i do not drink or smoke , run a car and rareley go on holiday

my sister has not had a realistic wage rise in well over ten years yet in that time prices have skyrocketed and she is constantly in debt just paying bills

our minimum wage or just over is fine if you like communal living ( wich most immigrants do do )

but if you are the average brit it wouldn’t keep a cat nowadays !!

HWhy? Because people who want to come and live in our country and enjoy the benefits of living here can’t be bothered to learn our language. And we pander to them!:(

but it can be said of many things , only last night i observed a poster in my local bus station with practicaly every main language on it

the more we do this the less likeley they are going to try to learn

and it is at our expense

if i went to any other country it would be at my expense

and that my friends is called a P.H.R.A.S.E.B.O.O.K.

Presumably you feel the same way about Brit expats who buy homes in Spain, France and Italy and resolutely refuse to learn the local lingo and expect all the local tradesmen, etc, to speak English?

Don’t tell me they don’t exist. I work with two of them. :p

being able to communicate is part of the pleasure of being anywhere

i once worked with an italian lad ( in this country ) he had no intention of learning english

so i went to college to learn italian

it gradualy made relations better and we found out we had a lot in common !!