There is a thread in Historic about this, where I posed the question – why?? Why 60 miles north of the wretched games venue?:confused::mad:

probably to stop papparatzi getting a shot of paula having a wass again !!

But, Sky High, you know full well what the answer will be from the usual suspects.

An uncontrolled, ill-mannered and virulent diatribe about immigration.

A proposition that those of a different ethnicity should be returned to the land “from whence they came” even if they were born in the UK.

A rant about spongeing and the ‘benefit cultcha.’

A rant about the “Government”, of whichever political persuasion.

Personal attacks on anyone with a mildly opposing viewpoint to their own.

I’m sure I’ve missed a few things out.

Regards,

kev35

not necessarily kev it goes deeper than any one of those reasons alone

i feel the main biggy in the west is our unbelievable greed and shallowness

for instance when i go round to my local indian takeaway grandad is sat in the corner watching sky and chatting to people

you just know if it was a british fish and chip shop the numbties would have grandad in a home , be shut for most of the day , then charge more when they were open to pay for grandads home

wich does make you wonder wich culture has got life right !!

Having quoted my post, you seem to have another good old rant about why it’s all wrong and who’s to blame, but I asked people how they would deal with the problem. So far no one has responded.

It is good and proper to criticise and complain but I think that in doing so we also need to have some idea of how the problem shouild be solved.

the bitter truth is there is no real solution we are being put into a situation of vastly diferring wealth

where the poor ( working or not ) are getting ever nearer to the third world

whilst the rich bragg about millions doing nothing in a bank

bankers are still not being held accountable and are still smirking at getting millions bonusses whilst refusing to loan and watch people go under

( how can there be no money but they can still draw huge bonusses ?? )

my ideas would be

1 reduce our dependancy on oil by electric/ hydrogen vehicles or even working closer to home rather than travelling ( sound impossible huh ?? ) just one example whilst working for a local council two of us lived at opposite ends of the bourogh so had to use cars ( two trips per day ) yet if we’d been allowed to job swap ( did ask but refused ) we could have cycled

this could in time allow withdrawl from the middle east and let them get on with killing each other rather than us the more killed means less comming here ( or it would if we grew a pair of balls like australia did !! )

the thing is we are told we are there because of terrorism ( i don’t remember ever having any till we went in )

bring property down to a realistic price …. with heavy fines if the buyer does not live there for a minimum of 3-5 yrs

so the young can buy realisticly priced property to get started in life ( and have money left to spend in the ecconomy

a standard terrace where i live has gone up from 25000 in 1997 to 125,000 now yet wages have been fairly static then thick arses wonder why houses don’t sell

people can’t afford them retards !!

the greed in the uk has forgotten the biggest factor in any deal ( something is only worth what a customer/potential buyer will pay and not on pie in the sky valuations

i have a feeling money is still there but through todays greed everyone is asking too much for everything but at the same time they are exceptionaly shy at paying out

for money to exist it has to circulate it isn’t doing its job sat in banks with everyone clenching and not spending

there is the argument the government gets the tax !! and it is partly public sector

but looking at the huge sucess of this venture , look at the bigger picture they missed !!! even to me mereley pressing a counter button

it was patently obvious they were selling the wrong asset !!

And so having made your points with great strength, what would would you all do? I know it’s difficult to exclude politics, but just taking the amounts of money involved, how do we reach a point where we are not continuously borrowing more than we earn, or at least, reducing the deficit to a point at which the interest ceases to accumulate so that we can at least service the debt, comfortably.

the trouble began by getting rid of our national industry and putting it in private hands

it had a short term bennefit by bringing in money from the sale

but the regular money that did come in was paying for many things

we forever got the government mantra ( we can’t afford to keep it going )

well if they couldn’t how come all these private companies are continualy boasting about millions of proffit for their shareholders accounts !!

i worked for british railways in the early 80’s i remember doing a survey on a line they intended to sell ( bear in mind privatisation wasn’t till the mid 90’s )
they were monitoring the busiest line on the network with plans to sell on

i was surveying passenger counts

the unbelievable excuse for looking to sell was it was unviable

laughably this system is ( even in the worst recession in decades ) being extended !

and look at the investment price for the work

http://www.urbantransport-technology.com/projects/manchester/

it goes back many years blame the crooks in charge that lined their own pockets whilst giving the population the bird !!

i was forced off incapacity bennefits ( inbetween two opperations and phisio )

put onto jobseekers allowance and told to find work

spent ages struggling finding work and financialy because i can only do certain work because of dissabillities

keep getting told it pays to work or at least they’ll make it pay to work

yet after a full month of work and grabbing as many hours as i could

i am around 300 quid worse off than when i was out of work

i love the work but if the situation continues i am going to be in debters prison so to speak

yet her next door that got herself bratted up has a whale of a time funded by the state a life of drinking , smoking , foreign hollidays , nights out at night clubs

thanks once more government for getting the wrong ones

my friend was also told his council job is in danger ( he dellivers books and hearing books for the dissabled in the community ) yet at the same time he was told this the councill said they were cutting head of departments as well ( guess what !! there were 3 bosses in his department , they did get rid of those positions but with a crafty reshuffle and renaming jobs ….tada !! they now have 7 bosses !!

and i look on it as bog simple home ecconomics if you don’t have enough money to look after your own affairs you don’t take in a freeloading lodger or give money to those accross the road to spend on a plasma TV

one of the vandalised views not to be seen again

the top photo is taken from aproximately 10 miles away the seccond from aproximately 14 miles away ( the tower at the bottom centre of the second photo is about where the first shot was taken

the bottom one of the two is obviously before the turbines arrived