deffinate advantage it gives him more shooting options as it has taken the fence out of a lot of his shooting area giving him far more options of shots

on a telephoto he could shoot the group further out if he was lower the fence could block his view

a step ladder is a superb piece of equipment to a photographers armoury because sometimes a shot taken from a lower or higher perspective can open up scenarios away from the norm such as better lighting , a better angle , easier to photograph without including ground obstacles like cones and barriers and people

go fetch some Tartan paint always worked

didn’t always go to plan , tartan was a british leyland red , i pi***d a mechanic off by taking back a can of dupli colour tartan red !!

brother to same recruit ( genuinely scared of flying ) ” of course these are the old ones with the manual gearbox , you have to hope the pilot gets second gear ok on take off otherwise it gets messy !! luckily i have never been on one but have seen it ,,,,, it’s the screams that keep you awake though !!! “

he then proceeded to settle for a sleep !!

new young recruit sat on a herc next to my brother ready to depart to germany

recruit ” how often do these things crash ??”

brother ” just the once then they’re ****ed !!

Armed forces black humour. In the Falklands (not sure whether this story is apocryphal) the Paras were under artillery fire. One unfortunate had his lower leg blown off to which he screamed ‘Aargh, I’ve lost my leg.’ To which his mate replied with appropriate sang froid ‘No you haven’t you dozy ****, it’s over there.’

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TlVqz3Mq1CY&feature=related

taken from the factual book ” don’t cry for me seargent major ” 1983 written by journalists robert mcgowan and jeremy hands that accompanied them from being on the qe2 to actualy fighting there are lots of very humourous banter areas mostly between paras and marines a fantastic read if you can find it , just spotted my copy this morning !!

without actualy reading through the book again i think that exchange was between a para and marine wich would make it funnier but my memmory may be hazy as it is many years since i read it last

I guess most of us on here remember the Miners Strike in the 80s?. Convoys of Transit vans containing Police were a regular sight going up and down the

it is still debateable wether there were squadies masquerading as police look at photo’s of the riots and there are clearly “alleged” coppers with no rank or number badges in fact they are in striped back uniforms

in fact if you observe the riot photo’s now a great percentage look like they had just drawn old uniforms from the stores with no identifying markings on

i’d say squaddies were drafted in on the quiet !!

Re 46

Knowing full well that the pressing of the button would unleash irrevocable destruction of the aircraft and three or four hundred lives not only on the aircraft but almost certainly on the ground of the city over which they would be flying? I, certainly, would never wish to be placed in that situation.

John Green

there was a tv programe broadcast a few years ago in the uk that put members of the public in politicians shoes for making decisions

one scenario was a jumbo jet that was not communicating and heading towards the capital

it was intercepted by fighters and coms from the pilots confirmed all was not well aboard

even though close to 911 the decision was to err on the side of caution as there were hundreds of innocent passengers aboard

the oppertunity of shooting down over a thinly populated area elapsed so then the problem was not only lives aboard but on the ground also

the scenario ended with the aircraft being flown into the house of commons

i’d say the real outcome would be much the same !! it would be a suprise attack that you could do nothing about in real terms

how do you predict the unpredictable ??? you order an airliner shot down over a populated area , what if it is innocents going through a series of unpredicted events???

A machine gun is a weapon, that, on depressing the trigger releases a stream of rounds until such time as the trigger is released, the ammunition runs out, or the barrel melts.

No police force in the UK ever carries or deploys such a weapon.

I haven’t bothered to follow your links through, since time was I supplied most of the UK police establishment with most of their ammunition and some weapons.

What you will generally see at airports is an H&K MP5 (or sometimes now an MP10) a machine pistol restricted to single-shot (semi-auto) only.

It is a small difference, but a quite important one.

Moggy

that would be these then ??? i don’t believe for one second that a force protecting major strategic airports would be retarded enough to deactivate a weapons full ability !! but then there’s the explanation they think joe public is ignorant enough to take in !!

http://youtu.be/963-B2Al428