…air6000 was cut short”
So a full “evaluation” there..:rolleyes:
as i have said air6000 was 75% completed

“…several thousand pages,..”
Of data from whom? Validated how? 😉

from uk gov, bae for the typhoon and the other participants on their planes

“…flown the typhoon…” “…probably have…”
Good solid facts there, oh no none. Also since when has a serving line exchange pilot been the best placed to fully evaluate an aircraft for the role required by their home airforce? They will be flying RAF missions, doing RAF training, not Aussie. Sure they can form an opinion but to try and state that this somehow is, or makes up for the lack of a full evaluation is laughable.
Secondly why is this “fact” relevant to the evaluation or no evaluation discussion at all?
Either there was one or there wasn’t, the truth is there wasn’t.
as i have said, i was told we flew the proposed aircraft, we didnt have flight testing in australia that i know of

did you miss this bit ?
“we are more interested with the final outcome being right and are looking at 2018-20” for our first squadron

you guys are acting like this is the first time you have been told the typhoon was evaluated by australia

thanks for pointing that out, dassault wont get the codes for the “slammer” either

They decided to skip on the test aircraft and go straight to the OT&E fighters. Two separate functions.

The Super Hornets were not bought (in Dec 2006) for a measly 2 year delay, but due to the knowledge that the F-111s would be retired before the F-35 squadrons would be ready.

ok, i agree that the two were combined

we signed the f-35 in 2003 the last gov put into effect the retirement of f111 for 2010
then the 2 yr delay in all the f-35, so we then decided to get sh for that delay and incase there were more,
there was always going to a gap between the f111 and f-35, but it was getting bigger, so we played it safe

The then Australian defence minister Robert Hill seems to be calling you a liar.

cheers

i was told we flew them in the evaluation and if you want to claim that we didnt properly evaluate them to the 75% of work done, you will need better than an article, a .gov.au link would be ok
or we can shift this debate over to defense talk where a couple of members were involved in air6000

The air6000 was curtailed, there was no competition, LM’s Powerpoint presentation won. the winner being the US$35m, US version, to be delivered in 2010.

That’s what we signed up for, since then we discover we have a ‘export’ version, its tracking for >US100m, and its delivery is 2018.

You can add the A$6 Billion for the f18’s to cover this gap to the final cost too.

So you go celebrate that, I shall sit back and watch the show with a big ‘I told you so’ grin..:)

One has to wonder how the Air 6000 “assessment” was weighted, cost? risk? capability?, delivery?. LOL I’d love to see the scores.

Cheers

you’re just trolling or is it that you dont have a clue ?
air6000 was 75% complete and we had all specs and test flew, it was assessed the rafale, gripen, typhoon, f-15, f-18ef didnt measure up to the f-35 for our requirement and so it was chosen
if you have any fantasies that australia didnt properly evaluate the typhoon including the secret squirrel stuff, give them up

there was a delay early to mid 2000’s for 2 years so we got the f-18f to gap fill to retire the f111, an “all inclusive” 6 bil minus resell price for 12 sh and 12 sh growlers is a bargain for 15 yrs,

france wouldnt be given access to the slammer, it would be a uae/usa agreement and instalation