As far as de-fueling is concerned you don’t need an empty bowser to do this, just one with enough space required to take it out. The reason it can never be taken out is because once it passes through the refuel truck to the aircraft the fuel is deemed 2 things, 1) it belongs to the airline now, and 2) it’s now contaminated. So unless there is a spare fuel truck hanging around to take the fuel out it will never happen. At most large airfields (MAN LGW LHR CDG AMS etc) the fuel is not contained in the actual fuel truck anyway.
Every Airline’s loadsheets have the Fuel figures on them. They can only LMC +/- 300kg from this figure before a new loadsheet is required.
The ACARS system is not used to send weather to dispatch, it’s the other way around. The weather is obtained from the ACARS system for the flight crew to digest. The weather is totally irrelevant to a flight dispatcher.
What fuel is loaded onto an aircraft is a command decision, not a dispatch decision. What the dispatcher can do though is see what the underload is for a flight, (but only when the flight is closed) and if the commander wants more fuel the dispatcher can ensure they are still on or under weight. The dispatcher will not decide what fuel the aircraft takes – period.
There are many reasons for too much fuel being loaded onto an aircraft to make it overweight. Such reasons can be the refueller misheard what was told him (yes this does happen) and loads a different fuel figure. You can plan for a certain amount of fuel for a trip, then once the fuel is on be told that for whatever reason there are alot more passengers getting on because of a tech or cancelled flight (this happens alot). Plus many other reasons. It is never as black and white as the media make it out to be, and anyone who believes this kind of hysteria needs their heads read.
Dean
Chris
Are you saying dispatch is in charge of what is loaded onto the aircraft fuel wise? Are you saying dispatch has the bigger picture regards to weather at destination and destination alternates etc?
Nonsense
I think the writing was on the wall well before Flybe went into NQY. It was on the wall when Sutton Harbour allowed development on the second runway at PLH which really spelt their long term intentions on what they want to do with the site.
But operated from a different base.
Why doesn’t your boss just phone up Virgin?
Jet2 haven’t got any 737s based in EMA, it’s only a 757 base. If it is a 737 then they must be operating in there from another base.
“15) Do not quote previous posts when you post replies on the forum
But it specifically states there not to quote previous posts, I didn’t quote the post, I quoted part of it 😉
This is waaaaay off topic. I still protest what I said in post #4 about the go-around being more dangerous and that is the reason why I wouldn’t have attempted a landing 😀
Ah no, because I only quoted part of the post above that was relevant, not all of it 😉
I like the description of a twisted world of diverse people as well! 😀
Paul
Oh yes, and I include my very self in that world too 😀
To be honest I did, I saw it as J-7 Hotdog saying he would fly into the storm (which quite frankly I think he’s mad and I am glad I am not on a plane that he’s piloting 😉 ) but he wouldn’t fly on the type that is flying into the storm.
If he didn’t mean this then I see absolutely no relevance to the picture and reference to a TU154 whatsoever, I must remember we live in a twisted world of diverse people 😀
Chaps I don’t know where the Russian TU154 came from, the plane in the video is a Fokker 100.
Whilst on the subject of Russian aircraft, no I would not fly in one, or fly one. I wouldn’t even put my family in one. They may be safe, they may not be safe, but perception is always at the forefront of any decision to fly in things like that, and my perception of Russian aircraft is not a pretty one 😀
To be honest I would have held until it had passed. Too many accidents involving windsheer/microbursts associated with thunderstorms in the past.
The problem was not getting on the ground, the problem was in the event of a go-around. If you saw the magenta on his weather radar that would have ripped them to pieces. That was a mother of a storm.
p.s. I thought the aircraft was a Fokker 100 not a Russian Tupolev thing?
Michael
What panel is it using? A default one?
Angelusky
You know my views about your videos. Words can never explain how awesome they are. Keep up the good work and keep posting.
Happy New Year to you and your family.
Rgds
Dean