Hopefuly these won’t break anyone’s screen! Me and a big bear in Berlin…

Paul

Which one’s which? :p 😀

OJ Simpson was also proved to be innocent in a court of law and we all know he was guilty has sin.

Complete rubbish, you/we know nothing. There was a very good documentary on a fair few years ago that actually proved (using P.Is) that OJs son was the murderer, but it never got to court (can’t remember why).

As for Jacko, everyone assumes he was guilty, everyone says “ah yet but, he did it”. How do you know? I did jury service years ago, we had a GBH case, all the other jurors looked at the defendant and was saying “look at him, he did it”. But after the evidence there was no way he was guilty, I had to intervene to get them to change their minds and our verdict was not guilty.
Unfortunately the flawed medium that was used to portray Jacko as something different was the media, they have a funny way of brain washing people into thinking bad about anyone. Their ethos seems to be “guilty until proven innocent”, this is what sells, some people can see through it, me included 🙂

Breaking News – Michael Jackson Dead ??

BBC 5 live reporting that Michael Jackson has died of a cardiac, I must state that 5 Live are saying these are unconfirmed reports but he has been rushed to hospital and was not breathing when he entered the ambulance.

Paul, I am happy with that as I have already stated. it is only my opinion and I can see why the majority won’t see it that way.
If someone says “there’s been a plane crash”. What is the image that automatically comes into ones head? For me it’s how many dead? And unconditional devastation. This is where my theory behind my opinion comes from.

I’ll leave it there 😉

Crash: to cause (an Aircraft) to land violently, resulting in severe damage or (of an aircraft) to land in this way

Source Collins Concisie Dictionary Third edition

Think that would cover the BA T7 :p

Collins Dictionary quote? Ok, if that’s their definition, what constitutes hitting a mountain at 500mph? What constitutes a rudder hardover and ploughing into the ground? What constitutes a cockpit fire and ploughing into the Altlantic? etc etc etc?
To “land” violently? Sorry, a crash is more than this, that’s not a good example.

It was a transitory deviation from the anticipated trajectory of flight, leading to premature contact with a solid surface.

Is that better, Deano?

Hmm, slightly better, eloquently put without being a dramatist. Lance you’re in the wrong vocation fella. Give Fleet Street a call 😎

Did it land on the runway as per normal procedures?

No.

Were the pilots in full control of the aircraft and could they have gone round for a second attempt?

No

Did it get up later and fly away?

No.

You might want to use some wooly feel good wording, but to me it has all the makings of a crash.

Firstly, take a chill pill, you seem rather tense.
Secondly, all 3 of your points does not constitute a “crash”, however, the term crash to me is very subjective, so in light of that I actually “respect” your opinion. But to me a crash means completely destroyed (BA037 wasn’t), the a/c was written off but it was almost completely intact, also to me it means there was devastation, loss of life, fire and all the good things that come with a good ol’ common crash.

What I will agree on is that it was a “crash landing”, but not a crash. Here are examples of crashes

Spanair

Gol

China Airlines

etc etc.

Anyway, without furthering my point any more you know damn well what I am saying. My opinion is that a 777 is yet to suffer a crash.

Dean

Yes but technically did it “crash”? Serious incident yes, but crash? Maybe a little extreme considering everyone got out alive 😉

I’m with Robbo on this one, here is my “Give a Sh** O’Meter” ….._________________