I have an 05 Peugeot 206 1.4 HDI and I get 70mpg at 60mph on the motorway.

Nothing beats it, not even the hybrids

er yep, you’re the only twit here 😉

Why oh why oh why have we had a post ressurected after 6 years? Surely this is a record?

Cathay, welcome to the forum, but PLEASE read the CoC located here before any more posts

No it wouldn’t necessarily end up in a diversion. It all depends on what type of decompression it was. If it was rapid or explosive then yes maybe they would divert, the main aim is to descend to FL100 then make the decision. If you are close enough to your destination then it’s highly likely you’d continue, lot’s of factors come into it like maintainance bases etc.

However, if passengers/crew are injured then yes this is an immediate divert

I really don’t see how this can work!

What about people who don’t have internet access? Doesn’t this rather alienate a fairly huge swaithe of the population?

Then surely they won’t be flying Ryanair, because they wouldn’t have purchased their ticket in the first place?

Whether you dislike the way she or others became famous or not is not really relevant. Yes it was her choice to go on BB but so what? That’s the way she chose to run her life, it’s nothing to do with anyone else. Good on anyone who can make a buck doing what she did, if you choose to support BB or not makes no difference, there are people who hate it and people who love it.

The website is actually dispicable, I don’t blame her for making all the money she can for her children. The mere thought of my children growing up without ever remembering who I was fills me with dread, I’d do exactly the same if I was in her position.

Quid

Forget packet mixes, they are truely awful.

Use 6-6-6-3 (or 12-12-12-6)

6oz Sugar (Castor is better)
6oz Margarine
6oz Flour
3 Eggs.
3-4 Tablespoons of Cadbury’s Hot Chocolate Powder

Mix sugar & flour together
Mix in the eggs 1 by 1 and then mix well to ensure mix is airated
Mix in flour but don’t overdo this or you’ll lose the fluffyness, once flour has “disappeared” then stop beating. Then mix in chocolate powder.

Oven 180°
Put your mix into a tin, grease & flour tin first to ensure cake doesn’t stick to it.

Cook for about 25 minutes.

Done 😀

p.s do not open oven whilst the cakes are rising. Wait until you think they maybe done. Quicker you get the oven door shut the better.

Just speculating here, but is it possible that the autopilot was handling the plane when due to ice accumulation it decided to disconnect? The autopilot will only go so far before it decides the controls are safer in the pilot’s hands then they are flying on autopilot.

This disconnet would lead to an unexpected roll. The yoke would be in neutral position while the flight controls, up to A/P disconnect, would be banking sharply to counter for the ice buildup. The result would be that the flight controls would go back to neutral, thus rolling the plane the second the autopilot disconnect alarm goes off in the cockpit.

There is no automatic trim on the Q400 in Roll & Yaw, only in Pitch

Peter’s post above definately seems to sum up my latest feelings, ie the autopilot could auto disconnect if it couldn’t ‘cope’ anymore. Deano will undoubtedly know way more than most of us, though.

The autopilot will drop out if the pitch trim tries to go beyond it’s limits, there will be a “jolt” but not to the extent of making the aircraft pitch so much that it will enter an uncontrollable dive.

I hear That the cause was the Auto Pilot was still switched on?

Do you mean still switched on with a significant ice build up? There is no way that the cause of this is because the autopilot was still on under normal circumstances.
Answering a question on page 1 it is only a recommendation to fly manually in icing conditions. In severe icing conditions it has to be done. (That’s our policy anyway). If we had to disconnect in all icing conditions we’d spend 5 months of the year in manual.

The biggest indication of significant ice build up is a drop in IAS (10-20kts) for the given power setting. The ice protection system is very robust in the Dash and seems to cope well in most conditions.
I’ve only encountered severe icing once coming out of Paris, scary stuff when you can’t shift it, you just have to get out of it, that may involve going down into warmer air, or invariably going up out of it.

WD

Believe me the wings are located a fair way back on the Q400 when viewed from the flight deck, it is a neck craning exercise to be able to see the wing, and even then we can only see up to the Spinner on the prop if we have a double jointed neck, from there inwards it’s impossible to see anything.