FAR
Definitely sounds like your latter description to me
Dean
Schorsch has explained it but Paul if you visualise a right angled triangle as pictured below, then look at the formula of
Vimd or minimum drag speed (which is the speed we have to fly at for best glide ratio) will be higher by a factor proportional to the square root of the weight increase.
This formula is basically saying that if we increase our weight then to obtain the best glide ratio or Vimd (minimum drag speed), we have to increase our speed by a factor proportional to the weight increase. Remember regardless of what our Vimd speed is we will still travel the same distance specified on that triangle provided we glide at that new Vimd speed, so the glide angle as shown on the triangle stays the same, as does the distance, we will just travel along the path of the glide path line on the triangle faster, meaning we will have a higher rate of descent.
Does this make it any clearer? (cos I’m confusing myself now LOL)
Dean
Well, it was flying with empty fuel tanks at that stage, wasn’t it!
Makes no difference, see post #9, adding weight only makes you reach the ground quicker, i.e. a higher rate of descent, the glide angle & distance travelled along the ground (glide ratio) is the same
The Air Transat 330 glided 85 miles from 13,000 feet.
http://aviation-safety.net/database/record.php?id=20010824-1
Newforest
Mate the Air Transat glided 21,500ft in 77nm (or 88.5 statute miles) to end up at 13,000ft 8nm from the runway threshold. This is a glide ratio of about 1:21 which is excellent.
Dean
also if its flying at 33.000 ft and lost all power would it glide over 1200 miles
hope somebody can help thanx in advance
FLYBYDONNI
It wouldn’t be able to glide 1200 miles, that’s here to North Africa
If an a/c wanted to glide for best range then it will fly at the best lift:drag ratio which is Vimd or velocity for minimum drag, if we remain here the glide angle will remain the same, however if the a/c is heavy then Vimd will be higher by a factor proportional to the square root of the weight increase.
So if we increase speed to a new Vimd the only thing that changes is the time in the air, you should maintain the same glide angle and the same distance covered on the ground, you’ll just meet the ground a bit quicker.
This is for still wind conditions, if we had a headwind then the best result would come by increasing your speed, the opposite for a tailwind.
There are graphs to work out the best speed to fly in certain conditions.
The 744 as with any plane will have a glide ratio worked out from the above, it could be something like 1:10, this means for every 1,000ft lost in height it will travel 10,000ft horizontally, again if you do the maths 33,000ft will give a Horizontal distance of 330,000ft which works out about 63 miles in still wind conditions.
Hope this helps too
Dean
A 744 as with any plane could potentially stay in the air on one engine, but if you take a 747 for example that is cruising at FL350 and it lost 3 engines, the issue here is whether this engine will be able to create enough thrust to remain in the air at that altitude, (the engine is set to max continuous power), the answer is no it can’t (normally), so there is a thing called a driftdown procedure that is used whereby it can (not that it has a choice) descend to an altitude whereby the air is dense enough to produce the required thrust.
This means that, as the aircraft descends, the thrust increases and the driftdown angle becomes progressively shallower until it reaches zero and the aircraft stabilises. The driftdown angle becomes steeper at heavier weights and the heavier the a/c is the lower the stabilising altitude.
The driftdown is flown at the best angle of climb speed, VX, which is VIMD (minimum drag speed) for a jet and is also the best (least) angle of descent speed.
This procedure is particulary problematic if the driftdown altitude is lower than say The Alps etc.
Hope this helps
Dean
Congratulations Paul, looks like you had a great time, well done.
Nice pics also
Rgds
Dean
I bought it on ebay a few months ago for £28 (delux edition) twas brand new, well worth the money
Thank you Ian
To be honest mate no, part of me isn’t thinking that, I am just very very thankful to be given an opportunity to get a foot in the door, and I thank flybe for that, I cannot wait to get started on the Q400 and I will stay on her for as long as I am happy.
Quality of life is important for me, like being home most nights, I have 2 young daughters, flybe will give me this opportunity, I can’t say how I’ll feel after a couple of years but as for now I am just going to grab this opportunity with both hands and enjoy it to the max.
I am waiting in anticipation for the kind of icing I think I will get, it will be an experience if nothing else
How’s it going on the A346?
Thanks jasop
Interesting times ahead then for the BACON guys having to transfer to the Dash, lots more resignations on the way I assume.
Great pics Paul
Congrats on the CJII Type Rating, is this a common rating to most Citations? I knew a guy who said the Bravo was a different rating or is it a week’d conversion etc?
The Mustang looks a nippy little bird, pics are always appreciated, keep them coming 🙂
Any of the Bristol lads (and others) up for a Bristol – Innsbruck day trip? 😉
Great shots tartan, the Cargolux 744F is one sexy beast
Great pics Adam, I particularly like the Thomas Cook Airbus 330, also the way you have captured the Saudi 777 makes her look like a gracious swan coming in for a landing on the water, very nice.
Well done Adam, I am very pleased for you, it sounds like your job is very interesting and will keep you busy for the foreseable future.
Hopefully I’ll be able to catch up with you sometime if I fly in.
Keep us posted on how it’s all going and how you are settling in
Dean