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  • in reply to: Israel/Lebanon Situation (Merged) #1923647
    Gollevainen
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    Hizbollah can change their methods, and look for a peaceful approach.

    So can Israel…

    7 Israeli soldiers have been killed, 2 abducted in an unprovoked attack by a political party operating out of Lebanon. Israel’s sole obligation is to its soldiers and citizens, not to make heads or tails of Lebanon’s internal problems. What would you have it do? Sit idly by and accept Hizbullah’s blackmail? No, this is where the Lebanese government makes it choices, weak or not. Israel will not sit idly by and allow itself to be blackmailed by the Hizbullah simply because the Lebanese government has its problems. This is not someone else’s problem – you are the sovereign, you bear the resposibility. Return the soldiers or face the Israeli retrebution. Can’t? RESIGN

    But my point was, why Is Israel shouting that an independent nation is attacking towards them?

    From YLE (And don’t worry mods, I will provide direct translation)
    – Tämän aamun tapahtumat eivät ole terrori-isku, vaan itsenäisen valtion työtä, joka hyökkäsi Israeliin ilman mitään syytä, Olmert sanoi

    Translated: This mornings attacks are not acts of terrorism, but act of war from independent nation which has attacked agaisnt Israel with out any reason, says Olmert

    Do you have a 2,000 strong army that takes it’s orders from a different
    nation and control southern Finland without the Finish army being allowed
    to the region?

    The only difference is that we actually have an army and working government to drive that kind of mob out of our southern parts (hope that they causes as much structual damage to the estates of people of Espoo :p ) where as Lebanon doesen’t…

    in reply to: General Discussion #302719
    Gollevainen
    Participant

    What you need is small light infantry teams, that will go into Shia villages (at night), and take care of business.

    …and quess what becomes of those children whose sleep where suddenly errupted by their fathers being swept away???

    in reply to: Israel/Lebanon Situation (Merged) #1923687
    Gollevainen
    Participant

    What you need is small light infantry teams, that will go into Shia villages (at night), and take care of business.

    …and quess what becomes of those children whose sleep where suddenly errupted by their fathers being swept away???

    in reply to: General Discussion #302728
    Gollevainen
    Participant

    I cannot say for sure, but weren’t there just a year or two ago great fuzz when the prime minister of Lebanese was killed and they blaimed Syria for this as it was anti-syrian?? So why can there be a primeminister with anti-syria wievs if the country is still controlled by Syria :confused: :confused:

    in reply to: Israel/Lebanon Situation (Merged) #1923692
    Gollevainen
    Participant

    I cannot say for sure, but weren’t there just a year or two ago great fuzz when the prime minister of Lebanese was killed and they blaimed Syria for this as it was anti-syrian?? So why can there be a primeminister with anti-syria wievs if the country is still controlled by Syria :confused: :confused:

    in reply to: General Discussion #302736
    Gollevainen
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    The Lebanese government has had 6 years to deploy its army to the south and has failed to done so, even after the Syrian departure. All this while, the Hizbullah has been allowed to participate in the political process, yet at the same time to maintain an indepedent army of its own. If the Hizbullah is not the Lebanese government, they should have disarmed it. They managed to get the Syrians out, yet have decided not exercise their sovereignty when it comes to Israel and Hizbullah. Fine, by not doing so, and as the sovereign power in Lebanon, they are complicit in the actions undertaken by its own armed citizens. If they can’t, let them say so. Instead, thus far they are embracing Hizbullah’s moves, as they’ve just declared. Everyone makes their choices, and the Lebanese government has clearly made its own

    Didn’t cross your mind that Syrians were driven from the Lebanese by purely political ways? Also the hizzbollah is as some might so nicely say “religious nutcase extremist” so how do you expect lebanese government to use political pressure on them??? Lebanon has no military means to drive them off and cutting down the support of hizbollah among it’s citizen is purely impossiple.

    If Israel attacks on lebanese targets (other than hizbollah) it’s the one doing the agression not lebanese. About time to get this sorry-ass EU of ours to do something to prevent a true war breaking out once again in that region…

    in reply to: Israel/Lebanon Situation (Merged) #1923698
    Gollevainen
    Participant

    The Lebanese government has had 6 years to deploy its army to the south and has failed to done so, even after the Syrian departure. All this while, the Hizbullah has been allowed to participate in the political process, yet at the same time to maintain an indepedent army of its own. If the Hizbullah is not the Lebanese government, they should have disarmed it. They managed to get the Syrians out, yet have decided not exercise their sovereignty when it comes to Israel and Hizbullah. Fine, by not doing so, and as the sovereign power in Lebanon, they are complicit in the actions undertaken by its own armed citizens. If they can’t, let them say so. Instead, thus far they are embracing Hizbullah’s moves, as they’ve just declared. Everyone makes their choices, and the Lebanese government has clearly made its own

    Didn’t cross your mind that Syrians were driven from the Lebanese by purely political ways? Also the hizzbollah is as some might so nicely say “religious nutcase extremist” so how do you expect lebanese government to use political pressure on them??? Lebanon has no military means to drive them off and cutting down the support of hizbollah among it’s citizen is purely impossiple.

    If Israel attacks on lebanese targets (other than hizbollah) it’s the one doing the agression not lebanese. About time to get this sorry-ass EU of ours to do something to prevent a true war breaking out once again in that region…

    in reply to: General Discussion #302753
    Gollevainen
    Participant

    sad but true…

    in reply to: Syd Barrett (Pink Floyd) RIP #1923708
    Gollevainen
    Participant

    sad but true…

    in reply to: General Discussion #302781
    Gollevainen
    Participant

    I get your point, but then again what does Lebanon gotta do with hizbollah, other than the obvious, providing the groundbase for them? I mean at least the news in here tells about Israelisi crying the new kidnappings being act of war from independent nation…??…What independent nation? Even the most blindeye israeli suporters can see that Hizbollah isen’t the same as Lebanon government…not even near…

    in reply to: Israel/Lebanon Situation (Merged) #1923714
    Gollevainen
    Participant

    I get your point, but then again what does Lebanon gotta do with hizbollah, other than the obvious, providing the groundbase for them? I mean at least the news in here tells about Israelisi crying the new kidnappings being act of war from independent nation…??…What independent nation? Even the most blindeye israeli suporters can see that Hizbollah isen’t the same as Lebanon government…not even near…

    in reply to: General Discussion #302788
    Gollevainen
    Participant

    Each martyr’s family will receive a monthly stipend of at least $250 from the PA.

    The budget for families of martyrs, prisoners, and the wounded could reach $100 million a year out of an annual budget of over $1 billion.
    The PLO has been paying suicide bomber families, as well as Arab terrorists and even one must-read case of a celebrated leftist Jewish accomplice. Today’s development, however, brings the payments into the category of “official Palestinian policy.”
    http://www.iris.org.il/blog/archives/720-Abbas-Approves-Reward-Payments-for-the-Family-of-Todays-Suicide-Bomber.html

    So when Israeli helicopter pilots get their payroll after doing some “percision strikes”, should I wave the same banner???

    There is always Al BBC

    I prefer our YLE exspecially as they are in future not reciving their stories from our way too biased STT. And there’s always Tiedonantaja, but that wont propaply mean anything to you non-finnish :p

    I usually have more then one or two spelling mistake and English is not
    even my third language. as long as we can understand each other there
    is no problem.

    Ahem!!

    Syria controls Lebanon. It is time to make Syria pay for the kidnapping of soldiers. Sending three flights of Israeli fighter bombers up north, to end up taking out a few worthless targets, is a complete waste of time. With this type of response, it will not pressure or move Assad in the least bit. Assad only understands force.

    Israel needs to destroy major Syrian POL storage facilities, and attack the ports of Sidon and Tyre. It is time to respond, to the people who control Lebanon. Hezbollah does not control Lebanon. Syria controls everything in Lebanon.

    But when it was Hizpollah who made the actual kidnaping, isen’t your statement bit contra-dicting?? Mean wasen’t it Iran that controlls the hizpollah acording to you guys????

    in reply to: Israel/Lebanon Situation (Merged) #1923731
    Gollevainen
    Participant

    Each martyr’s family will receive a monthly stipend of at least $250 from the PA.

    The budget for families of martyrs, prisoners, and the wounded could reach $100 million a year out of an annual budget of over $1 billion.
    The PLO has been paying suicide bomber families, as well as Arab terrorists and even one must-read case of a celebrated leftist Jewish accomplice. Today’s development, however, brings the payments into the category of “official Palestinian policy.”
    http://www.iris.org.il/blog/archives/720-Abbas-Approves-Reward-Payments-for-the-Family-of-Todays-Suicide-Bomber.html

    So when Israeli helicopter pilots get their payroll after doing some “percision strikes”, should I wave the same banner???

    There is always Al BBC

    I prefer our YLE exspecially as they are in future not reciving their stories from our way too biased STT. And there’s always Tiedonantaja, but that wont propaply mean anything to you non-finnish :p

    I usually have more then one or two spelling mistake and English is not
    even my third language. as long as we can understand each other there
    is no problem.

    Ahem!!

    Syria controls Lebanon. It is time to make Syria pay for the kidnapping of soldiers. Sending three flights of Israeli fighter bombers up north, to end up taking out a few worthless targets, is a complete waste of time. With this type of response, it will not pressure or move Assad in the least bit. Assad only understands force.

    Israel needs to destroy major Syrian POL storage facilities, and attack the ports of Sidon and Tyre. It is time to respond, to the people who control Lebanon. Hezbollah does not control Lebanon. Syria controls everything in Lebanon.

    But when it was Hizpollah who made the actual kidnaping, isen’t your statement bit contra-dicting?? Mean wasen’t it Iran that controlls the hizpollah acording to you guys????

    in reply to: General Discussion #302901
    Gollevainen
    Participant

    I only know of one form of English.

    Me too, the famous undestrandable englhisl of gollevainen 😉

    in reply to: Israel/Lebanon Situation (Merged) #1923742
    Gollevainen
    Participant

    I only know of one form of English.

    Me too, the famous undestrandable englhisl of gollevainen 😉

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