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  • in reply to: General Discussion #309354
    Gollevainen
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    I remember being taught in school about the Israelis being oppressed by the Arab people, so where was this done if not where Israel stands now…were they oppressed in Brazil or something???

    Funny, becouse I remeber taught in school that UK and other former colonial powers wanted to ease their conscience by giving the jews that they didn’t care much either some payback from the nazis work…And looked at the map and discovered that they had colonizased (or at least held it at the moment) the palestinian country, also happened to be the jews “promised land”…so all jews can go there (not being europeas proplem anymore)

    …there just happens to live some few million arabs on the area (have lived for centuryes now)…who cares about some arabs…

    Anyway, as Britain would say to the Argies and the European settlers would say to the Native Americans, it may have been yours but it’s ours now

    Well if someone says that to you, what would you do? I certainly go and shoot somebody… :dev2:

    in reply to: Israel/Lebanon Situation (Merged) #1926564
    Gollevainen
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    I remember being taught in school about the Israelis being oppressed by the Arab people, so where was this done if not where Israel stands now…were they oppressed in Brazil or something???

    Funny, becouse I remeber taught in school that UK and other former colonial powers wanted to ease their conscience by giving the jews that they didn’t care much either some payback from the nazis work…And looked at the map and discovered that they had colonizased (or at least held it at the moment) the palestinian country, also happened to be the jews “promised land”…so all jews can go there (not being europeas proplem anymore)

    …there just happens to live some few million arabs on the area (have lived for centuryes now)…who cares about some arabs…

    Anyway, as Britain would say to the Argies and the European settlers would say to the Native Americans, it may have been yours but it’s ours now

    Well if someone says that to you, what would you do? I certainly go and shoot somebody… :dev2:

    in reply to: General Discussion #309367
    Gollevainen
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    Israeli soil, against Israelis

    Soil that once belonged to someone else, entirely…

    in reply to: Israel/Lebanon Situation (Merged) #1926572
    Gollevainen
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    Israeli soil, against Israelis

    Soil that once belonged to someone else, entirely…

    in reply to: General Discussion #309383
    Gollevainen
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    Still I made my point…the Palestinians can’t have it both ways…if they think this was a military operation I hope everyone (ang that includes the anti-Isreal/pro-Palestinian community) in the world holds them to international law.

    Like the anti-palestinian/pro-Israel side is doing :rolleyes: :rolleyes: 😉 😉

    in reply to: Israel/Lebanon Situation (Merged) #1926581
    Gollevainen
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    Still I made my point…the Palestinians can’t have it both ways…if they think this was a military operation I hope everyone (ang that includes the anti-Isreal/pro-Palestinian community) in the world holds them to international law.

    Like the anti-palestinian/pro-Israel side is doing :rolleyes: :rolleyes: 😉 😉

    in reply to: General Discussion #309459
    Gollevainen
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    I would like to ask anybody who thinks that the Palestinians would stop these attacks against Israel if they pulled out of the “occupied territories” and “left them alone” then why is it many Palestianian groups..including Hamas…have stated that they will not rest until Israel is no more? Do u think the Israeli’s should just sit back and let the terrorists…that’s what they are, not freedom fighters…wipe them out?

    Haven’t you heard the news?? Hamas is willing to “indirectly” recognize Israel in order to get their difference sorted out between Fatah…

    The difference between freedom fighter and terrorist is the side making the claim…

    And what comes to the latest “hostage saving operation”, everytime when you need artillery (or similar firepower) its no longer a just police operation, its pure war…But if you think it’s so bad to take israeli soldiers to hostage, then what you stand for those poor bugers left rotten in Guantanamo????

    in reply to: Israel/Lebanon Situation (Merged) #1926617
    Gollevainen
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    I would like to ask anybody who thinks that the Palestinians would stop these attacks against Israel if they pulled out of the “occupied territories” and “left them alone” then why is it many Palestianian groups..including Hamas…have stated that they will not rest until Israel is no more? Do u think the Israeli’s should just sit back and let the terrorists…that’s what they are, not freedom fighters…wipe them out?

    Haven’t you heard the news?? Hamas is willing to “indirectly” recognize Israel in order to get their difference sorted out between Fatah…

    The difference between freedom fighter and terrorist is the side making the claim…

    And what comes to the latest “hostage saving operation”, everytime when you need artillery (or similar firepower) its no longer a just police operation, its pure war…But if you think it’s so bad to take israeli soldiers to hostage, then what you stand for those poor bugers left rotten in Guantanamo????

    in reply to: General Discussion #309620
    Gollevainen
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    What a naive child…

    So palestinians are fighting beocuse they hate Isreal? Well true, but I’m sure you are intelligent enough that you can think it by yourself, why do they hate Israel??? :confused: :rolleyes: could it be something to do with robbery of lands, opression, occupation and so on???

    The damage is done, that I agree, but Israel have nothing else to blaim than themselves…you hit a nail, it goes deeper…

    in reply to: Israel/Lebanon Situation (Merged) #1926658
    Gollevainen
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    What a naive child…

    So palestinians are fighting beocuse they hate Isreal? Well true, but I’m sure you are intelligent enough that you can think it by yourself, why do they hate Israel??? :confused: :rolleyes: could it be something to do with robbery of lands, opression, occupation and so on???

    The damage is done, that I agree, but Israel have nothing else to blaim than themselves…you hit a nail, it goes deeper…

    in reply to: General Discussion #309627
    Gollevainen
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    No I wasen’t stating so…But you are the one saying, Israels actions are ok becouse they have had to suffer…It’s you that are ignorant to the crimes of Israel…How about If I come and claim that your house is now mine, beocuse my religion says so and you are driven to refugee camp and denyid the very basis of normal everyday life and atop all that I’m building a wall to keep you there (and once a while fire few missile at you from helicopter) Would you be pissed of??

    in reply to: Iran……what do we do? #1926661
    Gollevainen
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    No I wasen’t stating so…But you are the one saying, Israels actions are ok becouse they have had to suffer…It’s you that are ignorant to the crimes of Israel…How about If I come and claim that your house is now mine, beocuse my religion says so and you are driven to refugee camp and denyid the very basis of normal everyday life and atop all that I’m building a wall to keep you there (and once a while fire few missile at you from helicopter) Would you be pissed of??

    in reply to: General Discussion #309639
    Gollevainen
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    Let’s not get all juvenile, guys. I don’t see how a silly pi$$ing contest will fit well into this discussion

    😡 he started it 😡 :diablo: :rolleyes: 😀 :p

    Some people don’t realise that the Palestianians won’t be happy until Israel no longer exists and all I can say is the Palestianians should consider themselves lucky I ain’t in charge of Israel cos people wouldn’t be asking if Israel has nukes, and Palestine, Syria, Iran and any other country that threatened to wipe out my people would be unihabitable

    Well with all do respect, but it seems that some people wont just realize that Palestinians like any other normal people just want to live in peace and see their childrens crowing…Ofcourse there are individuals who wont rest untill Israeli is driven to the sea, but the majority of palestinians just want to live normal life. And thats where Israel have got wrong, and can just blaim himself form all terrorist attacks mad against them. You see Hamas won the elections becouse their ground breaking work in normal community level, providing health care and teaching, a stuff that should be privileged to all no matter hwere their live. Israel in other hand just builds walls and stuff and want to isolate palestinains…but them in camps and stuff…
    I asked about the difference of NI and Israeli case, but quess our dear PhantomII was too busy to awnser it…so let me do it for you…In northern Ireland, the normal people are treated like any other UK citizen, they have the same benefits and oblications wheter they where protestants or catholics. Israel in other hand treats palestinians as a carbage people and uses aparheid politics to seperate them form the pure jewish race. So why there is terrorism…hmm…

    If Israel would have let Palestinians live normal life in their own towns and villages and giving them equal rights as jews, the level of resistance would be propaply same level as ETA in baskilands or IRA in Norhtern Ireland…but if country is based on promise in some fairtalebook written couple thousand years ago, can you really espect any reasonable actions from it :rolleyes: :rolleyes:

    in reply to: Israel/Lebanon Situation (Merged) #1926670
    Gollevainen
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    Let’s not get all juvenile, guys. I don’t see how a silly pi$$ing contest will fit well into this discussion

    😡 he started it 😡 :diablo: :rolleyes: 😀 :p

    Some people don’t realise that the Palestianians won’t be happy until Israel no longer exists and all I can say is the Palestianians should consider themselves lucky I ain’t in charge of Israel cos people wouldn’t be asking if Israel has nukes, and Palestine, Syria, Iran and any other country that threatened to wipe out my people would be unihabitable

    Well with all do respect, but it seems that some people wont just realize that Palestinians like any other normal people just want to live in peace and see their childrens crowing…Ofcourse there are individuals who wont rest untill Israeli is driven to the sea, but the majority of palestinians just want to live normal life. And thats where Israel have got wrong, and can just blaim himself form all terrorist attacks mad against them. You see Hamas won the elections becouse their ground breaking work in normal community level, providing health care and teaching, a stuff that should be privileged to all no matter hwere their live. Israel in other hand just builds walls and stuff and want to isolate palestinains…but them in camps and stuff…
    I asked about the difference of NI and Israeli case, but quess our dear PhantomII was too busy to awnser it…so let me do it for you…In northern Ireland, the normal people are treated like any other UK citizen, they have the same benefits and oblications wheter they where protestants or catholics. Israel in other hand treats palestinians as a carbage people and uses aparheid politics to seperate them form the pure jewish race. So why there is terrorism…hmm…

    If Israel would have let Palestinians live normal life in their own towns and villages and giving them equal rights as jews, the level of resistance would be propaply same level as ETA in baskilands or IRA in Norhtern Ireland…but if country is based on promise in some fairtalebook written couple thousand years ago, can you really espect any reasonable actions from it :rolleyes: :rolleyes:

    in reply to: General Discussion #309643
    Gollevainen
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    Those dastardly Jews…..they are so evil. They clearly deserved having 6 MILLION of their number slaughtered in World War II….having done all those terrorist bombings and such in the streets of Berlin and Frankfurt.

    So becous jews got **** on their necks back in WWII, they are now entiteled to opress and occuby others?? Nice standarts you got there…but wait a minute, wouldn’t that mean that all other opressed ones shoul be allowed to get even as well? So those 300 children died in Beslan, who cares, their were russians and they had to pay for the crimes of the romanovs…

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