I’m sure it’s all the same to you, but that country’s name is Slovenia. Slovakia is an entirely different place – the difference is as big as between ‘hvala’ and ‘dekujem’.
I wondered what made his claim ringing odd bells in my mind, becouse to my knowlidge, Slovaks use the Chech Vz 58, but Im not that familar with that weapon in order to say wheter its based on kalashnikovik or not. Slovenians decission is propaply due the fact that the inherited bas of zastavas AKs are getting old, and they dont have facitilities to produce the rifle themselves. So choosing something more desirable to small nations alligment needs is rather natural.
as for a sort of a veteran’s advice in these matters, that path in this conversation has ended up to moderators trash can at least three times allready, so beter watch out what we say about others personas;)
…But then again, I cannot waste the opportunity to witness someone that seems to be in the opposite camp of my own obinions agreeing with me. This sort of occasions are sadly rare in internet discussions:(
as for a sort of a veteran’s advice in these matters, that path in this conversation has ended up to moderators trash can at least three times allready, so beter watch out what we say about others personas;)
…But then again, I cannot waste the opportunity to witness someone that seems to be in the opposite camp of my own obinions agreeing with me. This sort of occasions are sadly rare in internet discussions:(
Again, the number of factors involved make a simple numerical analysis within the bounds of this thread. The fact is that better ergonomics improve combat effectiveness, I have even listed at least some of the factors involved in combat effectiveness in a simple equation for you but you still seem unable to get it.
Yeas, But Im asking you how these claimed ergonomigs inpact on the actuall shooting, or better said, accuracy of the rifle. Simple as that. Its pathetic to claim that I “dont get it”, when I constantly try you to back your words by asking rather simple and clear thing, where As you try to hide behind your “Im allready listed it” arguments, THAT DOESENT EVEN COVER THE SAME TOPIC, that Im asking from you.
Now, did you copy that? Or do I have to spell it into you?
How does the ergonomics effect on the disperse of the shots?
Not, how it will marginally increase the comfortably of the weapon, nor how by that the overal combat capapility comes minorly improved!!!! I have allready agreed with you on those matters, BUT HOW DOES IT inpact on the disperse of the shots.
As previously stated, I have no intention of repeating myself to you. You are clearly in love with the AK and are convinced by its absolute superiority so I am not even going to bother with some one who can only produce comments about how the AK never hurt you when you fired it.
You wont need to repeat anything, as you haven’t mentioned in this thread any exact data or reference how you claimed better ergonomics affect on the dispersion of hits. You know this, So no need to start throwing degatory comments about myself to hide it.:mad:
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Thank you both very much. Those drawings cleared the thing out
But another question emerged concerning airsearch radars and I wont go opening new thread for that so I think it goes here as well.
Which airsearch radar is fitted for Pr. 70E Dzerzhinskii (the Sverldov class cruiser with SA-N-2 Guideline)?? All western sources says that pr. 68Bis class vessles were moderninsed with either Big net (the same radar as in Kashins aftermast) or quite similar L-band radar called Top trough by NATO. After extensive search around all possiple english language sites and sources I sadly discovered that none described which of the radars is fitted for Pr. 70E. From the pictures it seems slightly different than the radar in Kashins so it makes me belive that it is the Top trough (which apparently isen’t fitted to any other ships than Sverldovs) but I’m not 100% certain.
I have listed all this before and I have no intention of doing it again.
No, you have mentioned some areas where better ergonomics can make a difference and I haven’t denyed that. I’ve stated all along that the difference is merely marginal. You have stated that its not marginal but haven’t given any data, information nor even your own estimation how much the ergonomics would improve the performance. Are we talking about millimeters, centimeters or meters in disperence of hits?
Its not that hard…unless you know yourself that you are wrong…
Well as we are basing our stands on personal experiences, do you Lawrence think that the ergonomics have substantial difference in accuracy between Ak’s and AR15’s? Give a rough estimation, how large disperese in hits let say at 150 meters???
…But he started it:mad: ….:D :p
But seriously yeas we are once again drifted bit form the tracks with our obinion exchange, sorry for that:o
…But he started it:mad: ….:D :p
But seriously yeas we are once again drifted bit form the tracks with our obinion exchange, sorry for that:o
You dont get this do you, better ergonomics improves effectiveness, it is a no brainer.
Yeas, marginally like I said several times. Or do you have some data that prooves othervice? It you who don’t seem to get that it really doesen’t make much difference.
Well you are the one who firts a) demanded me to give support to your own obinions and b) ignored the fact that I’ve already given it and yet accused me of not doing it…
so yeah that kinda makes me the fight-picker doesen’t it?
Well you are the one who firts a) demanded me to give support to your own obinions and b) ignored the fact that I’ve already given it and yet accused me of not doing it…
so yeah that kinda makes me the fight-picker doesen’t it?