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December 5, 2018 at 9:59 pm in reply to: Duxford Blenheim and Lysander passenger flights ‘coming soon’. #832546

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Ha! I never know what to call it. ‘Flight’ is what you take with Easyjet, ‘Sortie’ sounds pretentious, and ‘spins’ are inadvisable..

December 5, 2018 at 8:46 pm in reply to: Duxford Blenheim and Lysander passenger flights ‘coming soon’. #832616

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I am saving my loose change for a Blenheim trip already.

I am curious as to the ‘only two’ passengers thing from Sallingboe – it’s possible to fly more in a Dove or a Rapide according to the rules and when I had a poke around Sally B last time – admittedly a while ago now – she had several airline-type seats inside – six or seven IIRC though transverse? Bit hazy on it now.. Sallingboe herself talks of increasing seating capacity.. to two?. Can anyone help with the reasoning, I know I am missing a bit that she is assuming her readers know?

December 5, 2018 at 11:13 am in reply to: Please identify this plane #832721

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The Ki-15 looks like it to some extent, but so do several other suggestions. As with those there are dissimilarities too. Agreed this might be the source of the colour scheme.

It’s not about money. I know someone who’s actually a straight-up-and-down good bloke in the old aeroplane world who creates photoshop forgeries for fun. He releases them onto forums just for the hell of it, to watch for the response. I am not going to say who because some might not find it funny (I do). If you have been a victim of one of these pranks (Merlin Whirlwind, anyone?) you’ll know who.. It’s harmless, and it gets people thinking and talking.

It happens.

December 2, 2018 at 12:14 am in reply to: Please identify this plane #833469

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I was joking about the fencing… but this kind of illustrates what I was getting at. With this erudition available, we can’t identify the type? Either there was a functioning aeroplane designed that escaped all record or there’s something else afoot.

I don’t agree on a point of logic, Meddle, that we would need to know the motive for it to be a hoax.

December 1, 2018 at 11:03 am in reply to: Please identify this plane #833566

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Ah, but Garnham-Smythe was famously wrong about the type 3A pre-cast maycrete post turnbuckle mount, which discredits him in the view of all serious students of Allied fencing between 1939 and 1942.

About the aircraft, I just feel it’s peculiar that possibly the world’s most rivet-counting forum has failed to identify it for so long. Also, there are some other ‘tells’. The pitot tube has a droop to it, the letters under the wing appear irregularly painted, and lettering on the cheat line appears to be randon shapes. Any sign of a pilot is conveniently hidden by the angle, and the image is just sufficiently blurred and “noisy’ to disguise the model look.

I’d love to be wrong, and find out more about this attractive type. Also the fencing is interesting.

November 29, 2018 at 11:05 pm in reply to: Please identify this plane #833756

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..having said that, if this actually was completed, it would look like the aircraft in the photo: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wedell-Williams_XP-34

November 29, 2018 at 1:03 pm in reply to: Please identify this plane #833879

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If I am not mistaken this is a made-up ‘what if’ model, so doubt the reference material does exist.

However, I am wondering whether the ‘perpetrator’ of this model might not also be the source of a clever piece of forgery? It does look very similar indeed. I know that the photo was purchased by the OP in good faith, and it may have slipped in to a collection a while back?

On the other hand, it has inspired me to look at Curtisses again as the origin of a possible real aeroplane.

November 28, 2018 at 4:00 pm in reply to: Glen Miller Wasn't Killed By RAF Lancasters? #834095

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Ian, that’s terrible. Well done.

By the way, one of the witnesses has confirmed we were looking in the right valley. We’re going to need some detection kit.

November 28, 2018 at 3:57 pm in reply to: Whirlwind Fighter Project Update #834098

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Hi Geoff!

The new web page – we are not 100% happy with what our designers have come up with and we are delaying ‘go live’ until we are! In the meantime we do have a Facebook page run by Chris, though.

November 25, 2018 at 4:22 pm in reply to: Glen Miller Wasn't Killed By RAF Lancasters? #834648

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From recent experience of discussions with our transatlantic cousins it seems likely that there will be people who really don’t think we have email or videoconferencing and further believe that our ‘government’ – or rather our civil service in Taunton (he seems confused as to which) will tell an American if they ask in person what they would not put on public record.

Or perhaps he expects people to believe that someone at the Hydro office will say ‘Cor blimey, luv a duck, you’re right, we have a grid reference right here down the back of the jolly old sofa but we were too busy drinkin tea and bowing to the Queen to notice! So glad you Americans have come over to sort us out’!

This man is preying on ignorance – I’ll not be buying him a pint if I met him.

November 25, 2018 at 11:20 am in reply to: Whirlwind Fighter Project Update #834736

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A big mangle, but the upper rollers are independently adjustable in how they relate to the bottom pairs. Where curvature varies along the lenghth (as invariably it does) this machine cones into it’s own. Chris at AA tells me that working 14 swg in 12ft lengths in this way would be approaching impossible any other way. That it all appears straightforward using this particular machine and the parameters available does reinforce the idea that this is what it was imported for. – it’s a long way to ship a heavy machine.

I understand that initially these ‘planks’ were heated and laid over drain pipes, weighted by hot sandbags. I spoke to a chap who worked on the line in 1940 and he said that they never fitted and so the were taken away, tweaked on an English Wheel, brought back and tried again repeatedly.

This was unsustainable, of course, and I am sure this machine was ordered very soon after the Ministry placed the order for the WW. By the time it would have arrived it is likely that a decision had been made about the type’s future – but it is possible/probable that there were still aircraft to complete. On this depends whether we can say that we are continuing production on the same machinery or not – we will probably never know.

November 23, 2018 at 6:31 pm in reply to: Whirlwind Fighter Project Update #834843

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Bit of video..The hand-held cardboard (or rather ‘compacted cellulose fibre lightweight precision curvature gauge’) is only a rough guide to check ‘on the spot’ but it’s more accurate than it looks (my seven year old is very proud that she ‘helped make an aeroplane, but don’t worry, dad did the measuring). New drawings, one of which is visible at the end, thanks to Gunnar Olsen (with research input from too many people to mention). That’s Mikey and Mick working it – the first Whirlwind parts made on this very machine for 77 yeas (apart from a few heli******s)

https://1drv.ms/f/s!Ai__pj6PjSL_aKIpB6JYQ0UZaX4

November 17, 2018 at 9:58 pm in reply to: Whirlwind Fighter Project Update #767181

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Yes, it was a very specific Magnesium-rich alloy – one of very many peculiarities of the aeroplane. We are not ‘going there’ – it would be very expensive to procure and corrodes in a way that makes it a bad idea for a museum piece meant for posterity. We are, however, building everything exactly the way it was.

November 16, 2018 at 10:06 am in reply to: Whirlwind Fighter Project Update #767293

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Sadly the blame for that lies with Westland – they had a serviceable hack on the civil register as G-AGOI until 1948, but they had bulldozed it into a large ditch on the northern perimeter of the airfield by 1955. Pieces will doubtless still be there, and we were well on our way to being able to have a proper rummage when the Italians took over.

June 26, 2018 at 9:59 pm in reply to: Great Warbirds West Malling Kent oh the memories #776955

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I was 13 in 1983 too. I went to the GWAD three times, I think. Flew there from Staverton in an Air Atlantique DC-3 in.. 84? Truly gteat days, and the remains of the airfield infrastructure were an added fascination. I did think I was the only 13 year old with this interest at the time – my mates were into cars, heavy metal and girls. Not that I wasn’t as well, but I kept quiet about the Airfix and airshows. Who knew my future fellow forumites were lurking there as well?
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