Thanks NEEMA. Really interesting that.. the early fabric wing didn’t have drag struts per se, transverse loads being ably taken up by the Warren girder spar arrangement. However, where I said that the lugs were identical – that wasn’t strictly true of the wing spar lugs. It may well have been the rear spar lug that got in the way, being a large double-lug arrangement to take the bolts from the rear spar and the inboard end of the first diagonal in the same fitting.
Quite a survivor, a fabric wing by 1942. Maybe it missed out on the retrofitting by being in Canada?
Here you go – the black X’s extreme right are the bus stops nearest the airfield. The public footpath I marked in red is a right of way, but I am told that developers have built new houses at the village end since I was there last of it so it may not be accessible any more (legalities don’t matter when it comes to developers and local authorities in these parts). Red X marks the entrance to the museum for those who haven’t been before. Although it looks like major roads, they are easy to walk alongside.
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Interested because I was responsible for reverse-engineering and then building a Hurricane fabric wing at one time. The wing bolts and lugs were identical, the idea being interchangeability.. it certainly looks like the Hillson Hurricane used these junctions as mounting points for the upper wing, and it would be logical to attach to the centre section ends, rather than attaching to the outer wing and increasing the potential load on these junctions from outboard. Is the reference you are using publicly available?
Cheers, Matt
Why was the fabric-wing Hurricane useless, Edgar?
The Hillson Bi-mono did apparently release the wing on several occasions. That appeared to have a fin relatively taller than the Hurricane’s. I can only presume a lift-generating aerofoil was expected to go upwards initially…
To re-iterate in case of confusion. The bus is STILL RUNNING. It has not been stopped by the council. It doesn’t stop outside the museum entrance any more. But it goes to the village, and the airfield is on the edge of the village. It leaves from the station. As does the shuttle on show days. Where the station stop is is subject to change, as the area is developed. But the busses still run.
Yep. But the Citi-7 bus to Duxford village, as per the council website timetable I posted above, will do unless one has serious mobility problems. It gets you closer than the train.
I think the number 7 service still runs to Duxford village, from the redevelopment area stops to the left described before.. Route here: http://www.travelineeastanglia.org.uk/ea/XSLT_TTB_REQUEST?language=en&command=direct&net=ea&line=20007&sup=A&project=y08&outputFormat=0&itdLPxx_displayHeader=false&itdLPxx_sessionID=EAEM_97_49571734&lineVer=1&itdLPxx_spTr=1
Fair enough. Must have stopped doing the hotel stop then. It used to!
Not so sure. The old stops in front of the station were decommissioned two or three years ago and replaced by stops along a new bus-only access road in front of Spiller’s Mill, to the left as you exit the station as described by Herky. Unless the DX bus left from somewhere else? Have to admit I’ve only ever caught it from the hotel stop.
Parking tip. Office car park next to the ‘flying pig’ pub. If you put it in one of the KPMG visitor parking bays before you reach the ‘private’ signs then you’re ok all day! There’s only nine bays, but they are rarely all used on a Saturday (and as far as I know not at all by visitors to KPMG). Point taken on the new, imaginative name for the hotel. But ask any local (if you can find one in July) for the Crowne Plaza and they’ll point you there!
You are aware that the place that buses from the station leave from has moved around the corner and down the road some distance, since the redevelopment of the area? You might have been waiting in the wrong place last year. If in doubt, go to the Crown Plaza hotel ( a short walk), which is another stop the shuttle bus makes.
Matt
(Cambridge resident)
Ah, apologies – I did misunderstand!
You’ll be pleased to hear that Emily and Dave there are in the middle of a programme of backing everything up, moving, copying, digitising and fully cataloguing the entire collection. Emily is a professional archivist, so what they hold is relatively safe. I am sure you’ll get copies from them, though – good luck!
That is a shame. I did write a letter to Westland to ask for the copies of the original 3-views to be transfered to CAD form. I think the scale model community deserves it.
I hope you didn’t suggest to AgustaWestland that scale modellers somehow ‘deserve’ CAD from them! :eek::eek:
Seriously, though, what is it you are wanting to do? 3-views can’t really be ‘transferred’ to CAD, though they can be scanned and presented as such within a CAD package by something like ‘BacktoCAD’ (I think that’s what it’s called). However, that won’t help with the all important shape.
A 3-view is an orthographic projection into three 2-dimensional images. If you are after 3 dimensional data you need at the very least some sectional profiles, and then it is a CAD operator’s job to translate that into a model of a 3d body. Even if the profile data exists, I doubt Westland will do this work for you. And what will you end up with? A CAD file alone is no more use to modellers (unless you mean 3D printer operators) than the series of profiles that it was created from.
I would instead ask whether you can have access to what they have on paper, and if it is of any use to the modelling community ask Westland whether you can pass the information on as copies. I have no comment on how willing they might be to do any of this!! You are relying on the goodwill of a company, and while they are very friendly and approachable I would be very careful about asking too much – and certainly wouldn’t go in telling them you ‘deserve’ anything, as that goodwill might dry up (it would if it was me)..
This is the AP Illustration for the WW unit, and a photo (marked ‘C’):
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