Understood. Just a rant. Yes, no-One died. Apologies. Forget I said anything. But please bear in mind that to Key this forum is an ad hoarding more than a philanthropic gesture.
Haha .- sorry all. Have taken a breath now. Tony, can I take those with alcohol?
That pain in the proverbial are the people who pay their wages.
Well Friday night panic is one thing, but mushroom treatment for a whole working day smacks of a high-handed disregard for their readership, some highly respected experts in the field AND the poor bloody mods who have had to deal with the mess with diplomacy and skill – unpaid.
Key, if you are reading, you are losing sales by the hour.
Will break my self-imposed silence to say a) on your side, Andy, and b) don’t give up on a bunch of people who value your presence and obvious erudition, just because a button got pushed in panic by persons unknown. When functioning properly, this forum is a free discussion platform for its members, and is not representative of Key. However, I would understand your reassessment of any professional relationship.
From the Sheep Shearer’s weekly:
“A Squadron of de Havilland Manchesters, a sort of Spitfire as flown by Red Baron aces of the wartime period, has been unearthed from under a pub car park in Stirling. Angus McVague, 102, said ‘I was one of the lads approached pershonally by Bigglesh to grease them up and bury them, fueled up and ready to go, and.. oh cheersh, yeah, mine’s a double.. ‘
Manchesters-R-us, the company behind the recovery of the jet bi-planes, said ‘The aircraft are perfectly preserved and ready to fly. Probably. Please send cheques to (address supplied)
Anyone thought of looking in Burnham?
Have I just missed several months? The Burmese Spitfires have been unearthed, they are in perfect nick and are being distributed to museums? Cor, that Aldi rum- based drink is powerful stuff! My fault, I was celebrating finding a crated Empire boat under the rockery.
Have dug..
Brian Cassidy’s excellent ‘Flying Empires’ – available as a free download from the URL I gave earlier, states the following (The rest of this post is a quote with full acknowledgement of Brian cassidy as the Author):
“UU CAVALIER lies in deep water in the Atlantic at N 37 17 W 069 45.
Divers report that parts of V 3137 CABOT are still on the seabed in fairly shallow water off the Island of Mauren to the north of Bodø, inside the Arctic Circle.
‘UX CASSIOPEIA, its hull broken in two pieces, is just outside the entrance to Sabang Harbour. The bodies of one of the passengers and the baby were never found.
‘BD CORIO, on a flight from Darwin to Sourabaya to evacuate women and children, was shot down on fire into the water off the mouth of the Noelmini river, near Koepang. Three crew and fifteen passengers did not survive.
‘TZ CIRCE, complete with its crew of four and thirty passengers, is somewhere in the deep water between Tijlatjap and Broome, believed to have been shot down by Japanese fighters while on the last of the shuttle flights on 28 February 1942. ‘TZ gave a position report at 10.25, about 130 n.m. (240 km.) out from Tijlatjap, the last message ever received.
‘UF CORINTHIAN is believed to be still in Darwin harbour although its whereabouts are not known. ’UF broke up and sank after a normal night alighting on Darwin harbour during the night of 21/22 March 1942, in good weather. Captain Ambrose was seriously injured, two passengers were killed and two seriously injured. It is thought that ‘UF struck floating wreckage, as the accident occurred just a month after the bombing attack by Japanese aircraft on the harbour.
The shattered remains of A18-10 CENTAURUS and ‘UC CORINNA lie under the water off Broome, West Australia. An underwater side scan sonar survey of the harbour by archaeologists from the Western Australian Maritime Museum in 2001 revealed evidence of many of the wrecks. One of these is one of the two Empire ‘boats is at E 122deg. 15min. 12sec. S 18deg 00min. 48 sec. Anecdotal evidence indicates that it is probably A18-10. The Empire ‘boats were moored close together and with luck, they will be both identified in 2003. Underwater photographs show what seems to be an engine – the cooling gills are evident – and the blade of an airscrew.
There is a remote possibility that A18-11 CALYPSO was salvaged as it does not appear on the list of crashed aircraft. If it was not salvaged, it lies with its nose stove in and the planing bottom ripped out in the shallow water to the north of Australia, with a member of its crew.
The wreckage of ‘CZ CLARE is in the Atlantic, brought down by fire at night, somewhere off Bathurst. The bodies of one of the crew and five of the passengers are buried at Bathurst but the other four crew members and eight passengers were never recovered.
‘DU CAMILLA is listed as crash No. 366, located 5 miles west of Port Moresby. The water in this area is shallow and a search of the area revealed nothing. It more probable that the remains of ‘DU are on the ocean side of Nateara Reef, to the south of the Basilisk Light with two of the crew and eleven passengers. The bottom in the area is some 100 fathoms (180 m.), shelving down to 400 fathoms (730 m.). The positions of many of the hundreds of other aircraft wrecks in the waters around the coasts of Papua New Guinea are known and have been visited by divers but so far ‘DU has eluded all efforts at discovery”.
Thanks Bob. I’ll do some (metaphorical) digging.:)
Moggy, if that was alluded to – and I didn’t see the post in question, I was only aware of the broader conversation – then I apologise for trivialising such a thing.
The principle of freedom of speech still stands – though I can appreciate the difficult position both Key and the mods are in. I am withdrawing from this thread until more is known.
So let’s get this right. If I say ‘Tesco beans are a bit rubbish’, Tesco’s lawyers can ring Key and have me banned?
Thanks folks – so yes, looks like the Australian ones are out. Sopwith, you mentioned a couple of others, one diveable?
I’ll not be doing it in the near future – I can barely afford a paddle in Hunstanton right now – but out of interest, where and which aircraft is that? Maybe I’ll go investigate after I have won the lottery and if there’s money left after I have bought a couple of Burmese Spitfires..
Steel frame and fibreglass is all a bit too James May for me. I might just get in touch with Qantas though – happy to help!
+5, with import duty. And power to the elbow of the users of correct garden implement nomenclature.
Thanks. What is it made of?