Great stuff – thank you.
At first, I read the Flypast article and took it at face value, thinking ‘I wish we’d found something even remotely like that in the Severnside group’. But then this thread got me thinking..
A whole Spitfire sitting in a river bank, after being dumped complete by the salvage crew into the river and then covered by deposition, preserved, and the revealed by some kind of erosion unknown to geomorphology caused by a drought ?
No-one in the historic aviation community has photos of the recovery or the recovered aircraft, and the only person who might have evidence is detained at Her Majesty’s pleasure?
My bullsh*t detector has its needle resting against the stop.
Maybe a more pragmatic approach would be to send donations to the museum in question rather than to criticise its approach without knowledge of the reasons behind that?
I’d never send donations to an organisation without knowing far more about why it does what it does. If there was an appeal, saying ‘Please send cash, we want to get this aeroplane inside’, then I’d consider it. Otherwise, it’s not pragmatic or practical to send money in the specific hope of preventing further deterioration of the F4U – not while the museum itself says it has ‘other priorities’.
Hi TT
Just caught up with this one. Does Mr Sturgeon wish to join our little group – would you be in a position to ask?
Cheers,
Matt
Sunday was my first Shuttleworth, and I now know what I have been missing! Wonderful atmosphere, different from any other UK airshow. And the Edwardians at the end were fantastic. The four Miles were a delight. Nice Lysander shot, DCW – I’ll never forget watching it followed by those shy Edwardians in that evening light. Quite beautiful.
Ridiculous display – not sure what he was trying to prove. The aircraft would have close to the g limits often during that display.
I refer the Honourable Gentleman to my previous link… and Stepwilk’s post. Thing is, an aircraft can attain some remakable attitudes and still only be pulling 1 G (or less, but don’t get me started on that) 😉
Ridiculous display – not sure what he was trying to prove. The aircraft would have close to the g limits often during that display.
I refer the Honourable Gentleman to my previous link… and Stepwilk’s post. Thing is, an aircraft can attain some remakable attitudes and still only be pulling 1 G (or less, but don’t get me started on that) 😉
Google found it – http://forum.keypublishing.com/showthread.php?t=103635
Google found it – http://forum.keypublishing.com/showthread.php?t=103635
:diablo:
Makes me wonder.. can you barrel roll a DC-3?
I’ll get me coat….
:diablo:
Makes me wonder.. can you barrel roll a DC-3?
I’ll get me coat….
Thank you Anon. All that really is very encouraging. I will be starting to put out feelers for 3D40’s tomorrow!
Spline size – yep, it was shank size equivalence I was worrying about, always being vaguely aware that splines were going to be different. The thing is, barring the shed-find to end all shed-finds, we won’t be bothered by having to match the hubs to the SBAC 4’s of a pair of RR Peregrines.. I wish we had that problem!
Thanks again!
Thank you Anon. All that really is very encouraging. I will be starting to put out feelers for 3D40’s tomorrow!
Spline size – yep, it was shank size equivalence I was worrying about, always being vaguely aware that splines were going to be different. The thing is, barring the shed-find to end all shed-finds, we won’t be bothered by having to match the hubs to the SBAC 4’s of a pair of RR Peregrines.. I wish we had that problem!
Thanks again!
Bump!
I am not surprised to see 169 views and no answer – I’ve noticed before that there is a ‘hole’ in the normally comprehensive knowledge of the fraternity around this. So many aircraft were equipped with either DH or Ham Stand props – in fact the vast majority of the allied ‘greats’ – but ask about dimensions or whether the two were in fact the same item given the same shaft size, and quite genuinely nobody knows!
It’s not like its impossible TO know. If someone was able to take a tape measure to the blade shanks of, say, a Blenheim and a DHC Otter (4/3 and 3D40), or the Shuttleworth Spit V and a DC3 (5/39 and 23E50)..
In fact, I’ll be approaching ARCo with said tape measure at DX next weekend 🙂
Edited previous as I was confusing myself with it! One point though, Camlobe – were the De Havilland prop hubs really called 23DX50 or whatever – did they use the Hamilton Standard convention?
I thought they were called things like ‘5/39’ (Spitfire) and ‘4/4’ (Whirlwind) despite being based on Hamilton Standard designs? Only US produced prop hubs that were intended for British shafts carried the US nomenclature complete with additional ‘X’.
This is all relevant to the Whirly project. We still don’t know whether we can use 3D40 hubs or not as identical stand-ins for DH 4/4’s, and I’m drowning under all this..