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  • in reply to: General Discussion #232497
    Beermat
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    And talking of grating.. for heaven’s sake its fewer companies, not less.

    And as for “No economist” being impressed: https://www.theguardian.com/politics/2015/aug/22/jeremy-corbyn-economists-backing-anti-austerity-policies-corbynomics

    Or is that the MSM lying again?

    Tiring, isn’t it? It’s a lot less tiring when you start with a logical argument beyond prejudice.

    in reply to: General Discussion #232500
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    No, I admit its a hard one to ‘prove’ – I think in reality it won’t do too much harm if the tax on the 5% and corp tax doesn’t do it all – either he’ll bring the tax ‘hit’ down to the top 10% or similar or the borrowing goes up. Neither is actually the end of the world or the end of our economy – but I digress.

    Damn right Ryan hasn’t proved his argument. His ‘PowerPoint’ presentation is the logical equivalent of the prosecution insisting that Mr. Jones killed his wife because last year 25 people not called Mr. Jones didn’t kill their wives.

    EDIT – No it’s not, it’s worse. It’ like saying Mr. Jones WILL kill his wife because.. etc.

    I am not even saying his beliefs are wrong. Ryan, I GET IT, ok? It is perfectly possible, all things NOT being equal, that a tax rise will reduce take. Or rather that tax will rise yet take will go down. I doubt it, but of course its possible.

    Further I believe (but in the full knowledge that it is not entirely predictable by anyone, even someone with a graph) that the take will not be the full amount in the plan. It’s just the ‘I am right because I have got a graph and anyone who doesn’t share my predictions based on them is stupid for not agreeing’ that grates a little.

    in reply to: General Discussion #232536
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    What, he wanted to be a teacher? Is that why he set out to screw them over – out of job envy?

    in reply to: General Discussion #232651
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    Over May, yes, mine too.

    in reply to: General Discussion #232653
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    Thought you two would be fans of Pob. However, someone with less tact or negotiating ability would be hard to find short of a concussed cow. Ask any teacher.

    Talking of which, increased spend does not ‘mean’ an equal amount of cuts in the future.

    Austerity is not inevitable, and is at least as much ideological as logical.

    If you really did have an historical perspective you would understand this, not as an argument of the ‘absolute truth’ of a position (there is no such thing in economics) but more as an alternative concept and one that is grasped by many.

    Tax take depends upon economic performance. If there’s no money sloshing around, the argument goes, no-one buys stuff and there is no economic performance. It is an argument – I am not saying it is 100% right and excludes the necessity to keep an eye on spend – but it is not an argument to be ignored while dismissing anyone opposing savage cuts as ‘stupid’.

    And as I keep saying, you cannot PowerPoint your way out of that – especially with irrelevant data.

    in reply to: General Discussion #232694
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    It’s not over yet. The cons have even made a mess of forming an alliance with the DUP.

    Meawhile there’s still an impasse in Stormont between SF and the DUP. The clock there is ticking on the resumption of direct rule from Westminster. Does anyone else see the problem?

    in reply to: General Discussion #232754
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    ‘totally ineffective, scraping-the-bottom-of-the-barrel…’

    No, I don’t even need to, do I?

    Who are ‘us all’, exactly? This is the same arrogance that afflicted May and her advisors.

    in reply to: General Discussion #232759
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    Yeah, he did say that. He’s a smart guy – even after no sleep.

    in reply to: General Discussion #232773
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    http://www.mirror.co.uk/news/politics/uk-politics-poll-tracker-2017-10266121

    The poll tracker is there – check your dates, Ryan.

    Oh, and here’s something from your lot about unelectability.. oh, hang on;

    http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/2017/06/11/labour-take-five-point-lead-tories-latest-poll/

    in reply to: General Discussion #232779
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    It would have been facile to state it. However, he didn’t.

    Ryan.. still waiting. In the meantime, before stating ‘the polls didn’t shift before the manifestos’ I recommend you check the polls. Unlike you to come out with a blatant untruth that you didn’t read on a right-wing website.

    in reply to: General Discussion #232784
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    Look, you can slag off this one person based on one ‘poor’ interview all you like. I am not sure what you are referring to.. and I find it hard to care, as it will turn out to be some selective-hearing version of some benign position statement.

    It is of no import compared to what is going on outside your rose-rimmed front door.

    A lot of people prefer peace. It might surprise you to find that’s quite a mainstream view these days.

    Ryan. OK, I’ll bite. Show me the clip.

    in reply to: General Discussion #232801
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    The polls show a neat and sudden beginning to the rise in Labour voting intention the day after the election was announced and campaigning began – not after manifestos were published.

    Utterly unelectable? Have you not worked out that 40% of the vote has got people into number 10 before, and it’s time to think of a new slag-off.

    Wake up and smell the frappucino.

    Actually, no. Sometimes it’s best to keep the ones with no faculty to grasp what is going on in the other camp.

    in reply to: General Discussion #232923
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    How so?

    You mean when the people understand that John Green disagrees with his politics he’ll have to go?

    ..increasingly shrill.

    Fact is he may well step down when the time is right – he’s no spring chicken, after all. But far from ‘dead man walking’ it will be – to him – ‘job done’. Very, very different to the deparure of the blessed May.

    You like to big-up Farage for being a brave agent of change. If you take your political leaning out of the question, you can see why there is a growing admiration for the chap among the underdog-loving Brits. He has taken on a monolithic political establishment – New Labour. He has, from being a widely-mocked no-chance outsider, taken that organisation apart and put it back togeher again. He has then contended the most brutal and personal campaign against the nastest tactics ever seen in British politics and increased both his bruised and bloodied party’s vote and its vote share.

    Compare that to May – and you will see why their departures will not be of the same kind.

    in reply to: General Discussion #232925
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    Corbyn, far from seeming ‘desperate’, has the relaxed air of a man who has been through a sh*t storm and emerged, if not smelling of roses, with his composure and his message intact, while watching those of the sh*t throwers disintegrate before the eyes of a whole nation.

    It is perfectly feasible that a Labour Government will form within the next five years and he knows it. That is all he is saying, and it is reasonable. It is his opponents who sound increasingly shrill – and the voting public are starting to notice.

    It is also clear to everyone apart from the most blinkered idealogue where the ‘desperation’ lies. DUP? Seriously?

    in reply to: General Discussion #233071
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    More than possible, John!

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