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  • in reply to: General Discussion #258105
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    Actually I love the very British idea that once one has decided that one would never vote for someone that makes that person unelectable.

    It leads to the same sort of dismay some remainers felt when the exiters won the referendum – in their minds the un-votable-for was voted for.

    Churchill was branded ‘unelectable’ in the 1930’s – it took an effort of (unelected) statesmanship and leadership unsurpassed in our history as far back as Alfred the Great to prove otherwise and he was elected in 1951. There is no such thing as ‘unelectable’. Just unelected.

    in reply to: General Discussion #258110
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    Funnily enough we have a thoroughly unelected Prime Minister.

    in reply to: General Discussion #258120
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    Socialism for employers? You are either a genius who should be writing a new ‘Das Kapital’ or someone who should look it up on Wikpedia. Not sure which.

    in reply to: General Discussion #258123
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    The principle of making employers pay sufficient wages to ensure sustainable tax take (as well as ensuring a sustainable retail and service economy and the avoidance of exploitation of ‘low cost’ workers) is a fundamental principal of the left, not the right.

    How is the EU subscription socialist? Whether right or wrong, how is it socialist?

    Now, I do see your point about ‘Far right’ being used to describe anti-immigration feeling, justifying ‘far-left’ to mean ok with immigration. What has happened is the far right bodies who are jumping on the xenophobic bandwagon are not singing from the same hymn sheet as the British politcal ‘Right’ at all (not any more – see earlier comments on the liberalisation of the country over the decades).

    The extreme right wing movements don’t have any underpinning of socio-economic or political thought beyond the self-absorbed ramblings of ‘Mein Kampf’. Having a philosophy of academic thought and rigour contributing to political action is something that itself implies a degree a liberalism in terms of openess to ideas. This is a characteristic of the British right, left, and very particularly the far-left, while the boot-wearing saluting far-right are an emotive reactionary movement divorced from all of this. So you are not comparing apples with apples – whatever the reasoned arguments for and against immigration.

    I agree there needs to be less confusion over tags, be it ‘far right’, ‘lefty’ or whatever.

    in reply to: General Discussion #258227
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    Thanks John!

    in reply to: General Discussion #258231
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    Starfish, that is even more true of the Conservative Party – much more so, in fact.

    in reply to: General Discussion #258236
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    Not at all John – I have applied the the principle by which one extends an opponent’s debating position to its extreme by applying it to another case without changing the internal logic of the statement, in order to highlight its fallacy. I can’t remember the Latin name for it.

    Are you saying Abbott is the first ‘overweight’ health minister, and the rest all jogged until they were the correct shape for the post, as Abbott should do?

    In fact the first Secretary of State for Health, on the establishment of the post, was that well known athletic sylph, Ken Clarke. Is there something else colouring your opinion?

    in reply to: General Discussion #258246
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    Thanks CD ☺

    in reply to: General Discussion #258275
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    Not sure I follow that logic, Meddle. You have to be a perfect physical specimen (who therefore never encounters a health service) to be a a minister responsible for the health service? Would you say the minister of transport can only drive a supercar, and never encounter roadworks?

    in reply to: General Discussion #258281
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    It’s my 47th birthday today.. so that hurt!

    in reply to: General Discussion #258329
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    Yes. Except that buying a house isn’t providing a home where there wasn’t one before. Buy to let is very far from a public service. But that’s not an argument I want to have. It gets very personal very quickly, that one.

    in reply to: General Discussion #258344
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    Still, a house is a house, a flat is a flat, etc. They are all property. They have only become ‘properties’, as opposed to homes, since the market became defined by people seeking investments rather than homes.

    in reply to: General Discussion #258349
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    Employers ‘privatising’ profits is the opposite of socialism. As is taxpayer subsidy of a process that supports this, if this is what is happening.

    It would never have been mistaken for ‘leftist’ once.

    When people look back on all this in 100 years time they will be amazed at how in a time of mass communication an educated and free nation could be led to believe black is white and private exploitation of an economic imbalance at a cost to the taxpayer is ‘leftist’.

    in reply to: General Discussion #258386
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    Oh yes. ‘Property’ for ‘house’.

    in reply to: General Discussion #258396
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    ..and my personal pet hate ‘contemporary’, as in ‘the School of Contemporary Design’ or ‘period features with a contemporary twist’. Contemporary with what? The features? The designer’s birthday? The Battle of Inkerman?

    I know what it is supposed to mean – trendy. But trendy isn’t trendy, while contemporary is contemporary.

    While house hunting, an estate agent told me that ‘the property benefits ftom being contemporary’. I replied ‘Good. We won’t need the time machine to view it’. With a look of condescention, she said ‘No, not temporary, CONtemporary’. I gave up.

    Rant over.

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