Social housing.. as opposed to what, antisocial housing?
Yep – it looks like it was our own unions that killed the British union movement. The knock on effect will be seen as pretty disastrous, once we are no longer in the midst of it. There were some idiots in charge at the time, on both sides. But one side could tell the newspapers what to say and the police what to do.
Starfish, there’s nothing particularly ‘left’ about a liberal immigration policy, or liberal thinking generally. To see how off-beam your thesis is, you only need to look at the elected governing parties over the period – for a Labour government to become electable it had to lose all sign of the left, while remaining liberal. I agree society had become more liberal over the past few decades, by the dictionary definition of liberal. However at the same time the ‘man in the street’ has -for example – gone from believing unions are necessary, through ‘necessary evil’ to just evil. That’s one of many measures by which we have plainly moved to the right.
Interestingly you are following a more phenomenal trend, which is the confusion of socialism with liberalsm in the minds of the illiberal.
Yer right, of course. Fair point.
Probably was. Most are.
Don’t like her either. But I’ll reserve ‘toxic’ for those who really do damage through their malignancy – and there are some in British politics rights now – rather than a hypocrite with annoying manerisms. That’s most of them.
Couldn’t agree more, Tony!
What has Dianne Abbott done that is toxic?
Apart from Jeremy Corbyn.. (sorry, but it was there)..
I rest my case, m’lud.
You and I both know that Theresa May is not exactly appealing to the thinkers amongst us with this stuff. It is possible to see clearly through what she is up to with this, as ref my started thread, and like most ‘professional politician’ behaviour it’s not pretty.
As an illustration of a broader strategy, note how she is now attempting to imply common ground with Brexiters, quite contrary to her own rhetoric not three months ago.
It is the new politics, quite unlike anything we have seen before (except maybe ‘blue period’ Blair). Crush the opposition by agreeing with them, only stand for what the party you are trying to destroy at that moment stands for.
Well, I was talking about subdidies and taxes.
So you’d say that all reports of a serious change of message from Ms. May are wrong, and there is nothing different in what she was announcing about the state ‘working with’ business, specifying who should be employed, state housing schemes, or the workings of the state being geared to the interests of the working class (without calling it that as it seems to be an insult now).
Was it a thought crime to suggest it wasn’t always this way and in fact it wasn’t this way a month ago? Am I about to be ‘disappeared’?
I meant conservatives who believe that supply and demand should regulate prices and wages, that there should be no central control of resources (eg the privatisation of utilities), rather that competing private concerns should dictate availabilty and price, that who is employed and the function of the labour market should also be left to the competing private concerns, and that unregulated choice is paramount whether a private individual or a business.
Some of which is eroded by a land-grab back to the muddle-ground.
Silly me. Must have imagined the last 35 years then. Strong stuff, Soda Stream.
I enjoy your imaginings.
Left of centre? Where is the centre, J. Green’s house? It must have escaped your notice that ‘Europe’ is moving very clearly rightwards.
Yes, that’s what it is. The BBC hate Britain. Of course they do, John. Now drink up your cocoa and the nurse will be along with your medication in a minute.
Just like the Mail will tell you – anyone who isn’t toeing your party line hates Britain.
North Korean politics.