There was no second loss or any airframe written off. The only replacement airframe flown to Europe was for 82-806.

See following thread

http://forum.keypublishing.co.uk/showthread.php?t=55238&page=3

Read my post number 63 and read Arthurs post at 67

TJ

So what the 82-806 is non existent in the database anymore?! What should prove this. But any word about a MiG-29 or a second downed F-117? The second F-117 was only a total sth! Out of action is out of action!

there y got it! old fashion logic. Couldnt desribe it better my self 😀
F-4 has alot better aero than F-35..and thats a design with two engines.

The harmfull area is at at a two engined jet better distributed (area rule)!;)

He should not say the F-22 is the best and one minute later he is on the way to Gutanamo.:diablo:

You should pay attention on his gestures.;)

http://www.blifaloo.com/info/lies.php
http://www.blifaloo.com/info/lies_eyes.php

He denied that was he say, he lies sometimes (specially the part with the best fighter).
The best part is the head-shaking (he denied that was he tells), brow furrowed with wrinkles and the eye moving, that indicate that he is not so confident.

You have reposted the initial article/thread starter. It’s best if you read the thread first mate. Oh and can you please link me to your sources on MIE scattering in the F-35 thread. I’m interested to learn.

It’s not the Mie-Scattering and Rayleigh-Scattering of a F-22 or the F-35, my opionen is against the RCS estimations of a marble or a ping pong ball or golfball, with optical formular. The Mie-Scattering behavior is so complex that Skunk Works needs a Gray-Supercomputer for the Mie-Scattering calculation against the frequency for a simple form like a sphere.

The polar diagramm blue shown the RCS blow-up factor at a wavelength of 3cm for a 1/2″ marble.

Govt likely to drop plan to procure F-22 planes

http://www.yomiuri.co.jp/dy/national/20081228TDY01302.htm

The moves to abandon efforts to acquire the cutting-edge F-22 follow signs that the incoming U.S. administration of President-elect Barack Obama is leaning toward curbing or even halting production of the aircraft, the sources said.

Read this link:

http://www.aerospaceweb.org/question/electronics/q0168.shtml

Here it claims toan’s methods of converting marble geometry into RCS are correct. Personally I have not done much work in this area – so I am all ears if you can prove to me its wrong.

This is not correct!
The optical region („far field” counterpart) rules apply when 2Pi·r / λ >10. In this region, the radar cross section of a sphere is independent of frequency. Here is the radar cross section of a sphere, σ = Pi·r2.
The radar cross section equation breaks down primarily due to creeping waves in the area where 2Pi · r. This area is known as the „Mie” or „resonance region”.
But your marble is smaller as 2Pi·r / λ >10. Your marble and your ping pong ball is in the suboptical area and for this area are some another rules valid.
Has your marble around the 1/3 diameter of wave lenght than ocour Mie-Scattering and your RCS is 400% greater as your σ = Pi·r2!
Without the Rayleigh-Scattering.

Ben Rich describes Have Blue’s RCS as marble-sized in the book “Skunk Works”. One would think they’d have gotten a little better in the ensuing 30 years.

The question is what size of marble is meant.:diablo:

“Most commonly, they are about ½ inch (1.25 cm) across, but they may range from less than ¼ inch (0.635 cm) to over 3 inches (7.75 cm), while some art glass marbles for display purposes are over 12 inches (30 cm) wide.”

But the F-35 Software is limited up to 2016 to A2G.