I copied the vertical tails from the F-23 Black Widow, while the delta wing I kinda did take from M2K/EF2000. The horizontal tails on the first one was taken from F-22.
Anyways wut does everyone think about these two designs and how would they be better than the current Mig-29s.
Heres the delta wing, anyways wut does everyone think.
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I made a thread a while ago about underground Airfields, underground hangars etc.
Basically you can easily hide these inside forests and around mountains easily with camouflage, runaways can also be camouflaged.
With underground airfields where the enemy doesnt know where they are you can easly operate Aircraft without having to worry much about cruise missile attacks etc and your aircraft will be a lot safer. You might not need concrete runaways just unprepared field where a Mig-29 can take and land off from.
Listen, I dont trust Venik or Pavicevic, In my opinion they are both dumb.
But all I was saying really that anything can be covered up as long as its done properly and in many ways.
I really wasnt suggesting this and that was shot down/destroyed all I am saying is that we do not know exactly.
What I meant with SFOR covering up the Mig-29 wreckages is that when they crashed in Bosnia they were the first to get to the crash scene and take control of it, I dont think there was much media around it either.
You’d be very naive to think anything cant be covered up because anything can.
NATO never revealed their full losses therefore you cannot really know what was destroyed.
at least we are not posting pictures of the dispicable ethnic cleansing carried out.
I am sorry but what are you talking about?
Billy Bishop you’ve summed it up pretty much.
We(Serbs) did reveal our losses but NATO didn’t reveal their full losses.
You cannot possibly argue and say this and that was shot down/destroyed because you CANNOT possibly know, only NATO knows that. Wreckages are also another thing, anything that fell outside Serbia, Vojvodina and Montenegro can be covered up, ie anything in other countries and Kosovo.
me, I wasnt exactly claiming this was shot down, that was shot down but all I am saying is anything could be covered up.
You cannot possibly ask us for wreckages or whatever of something that might’ve fallen outside of our territory. As you know some things crashed in Bosnia, hell I believe 2 Serbian Mig-29s were shot down over Bosnia and who got to them first? It was KFOR I think and covered it up.
Like I said anything could be covered up, even if there were many people around Aviano watching doesn’t mean everyone noted every aircraft and their serials.
Pametno je od Hrvatske bilo sto nisu uzeli one polovne F-16, nisu imali puno “zivota” u njima i nebi dobili AIM-120Cs. Hrvatska bi trebal uzeti nesto Evropsko kao Gripen koji jest malo skup da se kupi ali bi lako bio da se odrzava. Mozda za nekoliko godina mogla bi Hrvatska uzeti Mirage 2000 kada bude malo jeftiniji ali bilo sta sada Evropsko je skupo, mozda Rusko ili Kinesko? ali ne Hrvatska nikada nebi nikada kupila nesto dobro od Rusije ili Kine pogotovo sto sada hoce u EU.
How gullible can you get not to think that anything can be covered up? They can freaking repaint planes, replace them with new ones, anything is possible.
You cannot possibly and exactly know every serial number of every plane that participated in the bombings and which ones came back and which ones didn’t.
I guess we might never know, but we might but right know we DONT know anything. There are always things that are kept secret and covered up in every war.
Maybe NATO lost more planes, maybe we Serbs lost more tanks or planes, we’ll never exactly know.
hmm I am sure some African countries with limited budgets would like to get their hands on some of those Oraos, and yes they are not that old, something like 20 yrs.
I agree Venik’s is dumb so is Pavicevic, but heyy what can you do. NATO never published the full losses, neither did we. We just said generally how much we lost but never to be exact. Only 5-6 Mig-29s were lost, not 11.
How about Libyans? Lebanese?
It was somewhere about 5-6 Mig-29s that were lost.
We had so little during the war but yet we used that little and defended ourselves very well. 80% of all targets NATO hit were decoys, and we used all kinds of other tactics into fooling NATO.
We did a lot better than any Arabs did, yet we had a lot less.
Coool models, but what tank is that? M-84?