French are building Rafale without Indian consultancy. If IAF had chosed Rafale than Indian software techniques would have made it 5th generation fighter.
LOL, another thing u pulled out of ur ass.
I think J-10 is bigger aircraft. In AFM april issue it was clearly mentioned that J-10 has more range and hardpoints than FC-1.
And what does this have to do with the J-10’s radar being fitted on FC-1? By just looking at it, FC-1’s nose is as big as that of J-10, if not bigger. FC-1’s nose is some 700m wide as reported by many souces. You can fit a pretty large radar there.
As for Gripen or J-10 being PAF’s higher tech fighters, Gripen was turned down, so you might as well forget about it.
I actually like the A-50(which is ready now)/F-50 as well as FC-1. They will both have very similar performance all around, and it’s their avionics that will make a really big difference. I think a twin seat FC-1 could also be used as a good advanced jet trainer, I mean why NOT? It’s as cheaper than the A-50, has some decent space to grow, cheap to run and etc. I think wiring the A-50 with some Israeli weapons/avionics and possibly developing a local Korean made engine it might have some export success.
As usual, someone has to mention India/LCA/FC-1 in a thread, and what I’ve noticed in a lot of other threads is that it’s PLA that always starts it off. Please stop the damn discussion about India and LCA, mods you guys have to control this crap.
Wow is there really stopping this missile by any sort of Anti-Missile defence, when it’s flying that fast?
BTW I thought it was very hard intercepting small supersonic missiles, especially going over mach 2.
Actually, the India’s next generation fighter to succeed the LCA is the MCA, the PAK-FA will succeed Mig-29 and Su-27 and will be somewhat based on the Su-47 but will not have forward swept wings.
The advantage here lies with the subsonic weapon… from fixed wing aircraft the Kh-35 weighs about 530kg (without its solid rocket booster needed for ground or helo launch), whereas the Kh-31 weighs at least 650kgs.
Yes but Kh-31AD is much faster.
The Kh-31 has a range of 70km against a destroyer sized target if launched at relatively high altitude (15km). At sea level the range is about 50km.
The Kh-31 anti radiation missile has a range of 100km because it flys all the way to the target at high altitude and dives on the target. Max speed for both models is 1000mps (1km per second) but average speed for anti ship version is much lower at about mach 2… due to low flight altitude.
I think you’re talking about the Kh-31A, which has a 70km range and 50km at low level, however the Kh-31AD extended range is said to have a range of 100km at high altitude.
The speed of Moskit is about mach 2-2.5 at low altitude. No airlaunched versions are currently available. The original version (SS-N-22 SUNBURN) which entered service in the early 1980s does not fly higher than 300m and is a low flyer all the way to the target. An airlaunched version might fly higher for the early portion of the flight to improve range… 250km is probably possible for this 120km range missile.
Then whats the really heavy missile carried by Su-33s and now to be carried by Su-34s and other platforms?
The only Alpha I have heard of that has entered service is the version of the Club missile that uses a subsonic cruise missile to carry a supersonic warhead and seeker to within 20km of the target area, where the “warhead and seeker” are launched at mach 2.9 for the last 20km to the target… greatly reducing time for defence. Gives subsonic range plus low flight and highg speed last line of defence penetration ability and terminal effects.
yes, thats the one I know about too, but Alpha designation was given to another land attack supersonic missile developed from an anti-shipping missile which was cancelled not long ago.
There is an article in that thread which says that the land attack version, the Alpha/Alfa has been cancelled, is it talking about the Yakhont-M or the Air Launched Klib(Alfa) because the designations are really screwed up?
Ohhh my bad, I wanted to talk about the air launched ones.
I know Soviets developed some, and a Mig-31 was converted to use them but I never actually got any names for the missile.
However the Americans have converted a few F-15s to launch their ASATs. It’s a lot easier finding info on ASATs than anything Soviet.
So how would it be hypothetically able to track down an F-117 or B-2?
Yes by far Mig-25 and Mig-31 are my favourite family of aircraft. I just love their huge size, the huge engines, nose, intakes, awesome aircraft. Just that for quite a few reasons, I have never liked their capabilities over lets say Su-27/F-14 and other aircraft in the same class.
six Yakhont M supersonic missiles.
That’s more like it. Why don’t I have more faith in the much smaller and subsonic Kh-35? I always thought Kh-31A would’ve been a better option than te Kh-35, despite smaller range it’s supersonic.
Since when does Israel or any other Western country care about compatibility with Russian made weapons like Mig-29 and Su-27?
Yes but the extra range is not a disadvantage only unless it severly reduces the missiles ability to hit ALCMs or Bombers.