Yes, thats the thing with Phoenix, the early AIM-54As I think had a maximum engagement Gload of something like 6gs I think, if Iraqis knew it was coming it would’ve been possibly somehow to outmaneuver it and avoid it, but the problem is they did not know it was ever comming and then when it hit them they knew.
My knowledge of missiles in general is pretty limited. How can a R-37M sneak up to a modern aircraft like lets say F-15K/T, Typhoon, Rafale, Su-35/30MKI or WHATEVER by surprise? So far my understanding is that te R-37/M is dual ARH/SARH and I think they will probably fit an IR seeker too on the M version.
Cheaper and lighter, it cannot be that much cheaper, but for a extra 100km range, hell I’d pay a lot more lol.
I know the R-33 series was not designed to engage fighters, neither was the Phoenix but it was HIGHLY successfull against Iraqi fighters, it took down a lot of them. The question is, how effective would the R-37/R-37M be against modern fighter targets? I think it’s max g overload for the R-37/M is something like 8 Gs according to ACIG.
I guess, but wait, does the Yakhont-M dive on the target from a higher altitude or does it drop low a distance ahead and then attack?
As for Moskit, I guess ANYONE would have trouble against this missile, not only it flies very low, but for a extremely long range and extremely fast, making it extremely hard to detect and even when it is detected there will be a lot of trouble intercepting it.
These AIM-120s are a long way from entering service, while R-77M-PD/Meteor should be around much sooner, and teh R-37M should be ready pretty soon. The R-37M should have a range of some 400km, something like double of the AIM-54C. It will be dual SARH/ARH and like someone previously mentioned a IR seeker will probably be added for Anti-AWACS purposes. Theres the little less capacle R-37 with 300km range.
More like specialized pilots for each role is the most effective. The thing is a multirole Typhoon/Rafale/Su-XX can do everything and WELL, while having multirole pilots is not the most effective, sure it’s cost-effective but it’s not exactly effective, it’s best to have pilots for specialized roles and make em switch, sure it’s a little more expensive but a lot more effective.
Which one is the Granit? Apperantly I’ve heard this name on 2-3 other missiles.
It almost certainly isn’t the only change. In my opinion they will probably add an IIR seeker as well in case the AWACS shuts down or successfully jams its radar seeker.
Even if that was the only difference the reason for having an R-37M is what has been explained all along… the need to engage AWACS aircraft at the edge of their detection ranges for the launch aircraft… ie 400km+.
So the R-37M could still engage bomber and cruise missiles and much like the standard R-37. The question is, what can the R-37 do better than the R-37M cant?
The ones Jordan will get cannot be fired at Israeli planes I heard. So its basically pointless. Jordan has no other threats apart from Israel.
And technically, how is this possible?
Low level data to what Sea-state.
huh?
The Alfa which flies high subsonically then drops very low and boosts itself to m3+ and it has a 250km range with 1700kg launch weight. The Yakhont-M weighs 2500kg, has a speed of m3+, flies very high and of course has a range of 300km. So which one is better? I am sure that the Alfa is going to have a MUCH better chance of getting through than the Yakhont-M. Also what about the aeroballistic Kh-15 AshM, with 150km range and m5 speed, how well would this get through Anti-Ship defences since it flies so high and fast?
Yes the RuAF rejected it in favour of the R-37M which is just an upgraded R-37 itself. The KS-172 is not sopposed to be guided by the aircraft, it is fired to a direction where they think theres an AWACS, and when it is the missile picks up a high radar emitting target itself. I think it would be hard to intercept a mach 4+ missile like the KS-172.
What you guys think about R-77M-PD and R-37/M?
Any news on the development of the twin seater FC-1?
Ok if the R-37M only has a booster to boost it’s range for an extra 100km, if thats the only change then it’s only an improvement of the R-37 and there is no need for it. If thats the only change, then why are they fitting both of the missiles on the Mig-31BM/M?
No I understand it, of course you’re trying to bash India lol, thats why I said ur pulling stuff out of ur ass, but heyy not the first time.
A lot of reports indicate they were looking into the FC-1. FC-1 with Russian radar like Zhuk-M and Russian avionics would be the best, because they already have some Russian AAMs in stocks like R-27 and R-73 they got with Mig-29s, they already maintained the RD-33 previously and all of this should come at a cheap price. I still think upgrading the Mig-29 to SMT would be the best choice because it greatly reduces the maintenance costs to the existing Mig-29 avionics, engine and airframe, this would be the cheapest option now that they operate them. Mig-29SMT should not be that much more expensive to operate than lets say F-16, much cheaper than the Mig-29A.