8 R-27 and 6 R-77 is current limit for Flanker. there is no evidence beyond that. and KAB is not a long range missile rather a bomb. I consider PGM having atleast range of 100KM to better protect the striking aircraft. oNce you are in 40 to 50 KM zone. you are in range of medium range SAMs and short range intercepotors which will make the striking aircraft mission even more impossible.

So what PGMs will exactly the FC-1 carry? The PGM means Precision Guided Munition, whether a bomb or a missile it’s a PGM

Also could you pull out more articles out of your ass for the Flanker’s AAM limits?

But a year later in 2000, Russian-piloted Su-27s from Ethiopia couldn’t make a single confirm hit on MiG-29s with a bvr weapon despite firing off more than two dozen R-27s. (2) The four kills the Flankers got were by turning dogfights.

So again, for the Su-27/30 this concept of concluding multiple engagements beyond visual range is not proven. Just because the F-15 is capable of it doesn’t mean that it could be replicated by the Su-30 just because it is also as large and as expensive.

Those were the Su-27SKs armed with SARH R-27s which kind of proved to suck, this is no match for an ARH armed F-15C with AIm-120

its funny that you have more Su-30s for strike and then you have more FC-1s for escort than for strike. If you have 4 Su-30s for strike and 2 for escort, which is a 2:1 ratio, you should have some 12 FC-1s for strike and some 6 for escort to have a 2:1 ratio.

4 Su-30MKIs will carry a total payload of 32000kg(8000kg*4) on 40 hardpoints(10*4, wingtips don’t count) over their long range. The 2 other Su-30s will carry approximately 24 AAMs, out of 4 which have to be SRAAMs(cuz of wingtips). 12 FC-1s will carry 3 fuel tanks and will have 2 other hardpoints for PGMs, since wingtips cannot be used, so 2*12=24 hardpoints, 3800kg*12=45600kg(mind you that this would be reduced as much as by half because the fuel tanks weigh alot), while the 6 escort FC-1s will carry 3 fuel tanks, have 2 wingtips and 2 normal hardpoints, 24 hardpoints where 12 of those will be wingtips to carry SRAAMs and the other 12 will be BVRAAMs.

So 6 Su-30s with 32000kg on 40 hardpoints, while escort will carry 20 BVRAAMs and 4 SRAAMs
12 FC-1s will carry 45600kg(hypothetically excluding all the fuel tanks) on 24 hardpoints while 6 escort FC-1s will carry 12 SRAAMs and 12 BVRAAMs.

Su-30s will also be much cheaper to maintain and service, in Strike role they have a huge advantage as well as also having a big advantage in terms of speed since the FC-1s will have to carry a lot of fuel tanks which will enormously decrease the speed.

In the long range strike/AA role, the smaller ligher weight fighters really cannot compete.

However when the FC-1s don’t have to carry the enormous ammount of fuel and have to attack targets at a smaller range then it’s a different story

So what really big advantage in AA combat does the Su-35 really have then?

I see, but don’t you also agree that a Su-35 will see an FC-1 at a probably twice as longer range because of it’s better radar(lets say RC400 will see a Su-35 at 100km, the Su-35’s N011M will see an FC-1 at least 170km+), so while the Su-35 is looking, it can go low or just play around with it and such.

50-50 chance is not a good idea ehh, so after all FC-1 will have a good chance of shooting down a M2K, Mig-29, Su-30MKI or whatever?

Crobato I was talking about a BVR fight, when a Su-35 would lock on to a FC-1 then get into it’s radar range to fire the R-77, the FC-1 would lock on too….

So what would be the outcome of this, who would win?