Because you keep repeating this silly “100% French” line, without ever acknowledging that it is false. How much effort is it to snip it out?

Ok 98% French – the seat. 🙂

Like I said quite a few do not mean just GPS and MIDS. And the Dassault VP said it in an India specefic deal and claimed full ToT for the Rafale claimed that its advantage over the Gripen and EF is that it do not need U.S authorization.

Now the GPS/MIDS require U.S authorization, so he must not be offering it to say that, and he must be comparing it to the Non GPS/MIDS Gripen and EF. Otherwise he is being dishonest, which i hardly think is the case.

So keep to be the ignorant and dismiss reality.

No I do not believe what you say is reality. And do not care if you consider me ignorant.

What about this?
http://www.deagel.com/news/FMS-Saudia-Arabia-Requests-MIDSLVT-1-for-Typhoon-Aircraft_n000005049.aspx
http://www.baesystems.com/Newsroom/NewsReleases/autoGen_10703019588.html

Exact;y what everyone has been telling you. The Saudis have ordered MIDS, for their Typhoons. It makes sense, as they have a US-supplied air defence system, E-3s, etc.

Note that this is their first purchase of MIDS

I have never disputed that these were involved in the Saudi deal. But these are not the only critical American components in the EF.

Read my last post….why would a Dassault VP claim otherwise on an India-speceif deal. I am sure he was not lying to get one over his rival, as these things are easily verifiable by the Indians.

There will be no need for approval for the Rafale because it uses significantly less U.S tech. There won’t be a U.S approval or a need for it in Rafales case. This is Chabriol, Dassault’s senior vice president for military sales, He says full tech transfer first

When we talk about technology transfer, we mean full technology transfer and not in bits and pieces,” J.P.H.P. Chabriol, Dassault’s senior vice president for military sales, told a group of visiting Indian journalists at the company’s headquarters here.

“The way we work, we first have to obtain clearance of the government before putting in our proposal. If we win the order, we can begin work on transferring technology from day one – unlike our competition,” he added.

Chabriol also pointed out that being 100 percent French gave Dassault a distinct edge over its competitors on the technology transfer issue.

“The Grippen is powered by a US engine and has other US components too. Similar is the case with the Eurofighter, which has quite a few American parts. So, they would have to first seek the US government’s approval. In the case of the F-18, approval would have to be sought not only of the government but also of parliament (the US Congress).

“This legislative approval is not an issue in our case,” Chabriol added.

In short America will not be consulted. Need not be consulted with regards to Rafale.

http://www.aol.in/news-story/france-clears-technology-transfer-for-rafale-fighter-dassault/2008110502289012000018

There are still difference between those two. Futhermore, assuming that one of these was meant is speculation, not a valid conclusion. What if it meant the Su-27, while another article talking about a different radar used the same term to refer to the F-16, which (to go with ballpark figures) has an RCS four times lower? How compatible are the given range figures then? If a statement or claim hasn’t got a number (and preferably an SI unit) to it, I would be wary to draw quick or hard conclusions.

Its a Russian jet so it typically should mean a western target. Most Western Radars claim to detect Mig 29 size target. Anyway it was on dti, they do not print rubbish and that is why I believe it.

It’s just that the details are important here if you claim something. So you don’t know whether the Saudi-Arabian spec approval was about GPS and MIDs indeed, because you admit that you don’t know which parts of the EF require approval?

Its not me claiming it, its me pointing out to the fact that it requires U.S sanctions to sell EF, and Rafale do not. I never said this component or that component.

Like I said lets wait till the U.A.E deal, lets see if the Rafale would need a clearance from the U.S. 🙂

I would appreciate refraining from personal attacks and sticking to the topic.

It was not a personal attack. Just pointing out that I am a common man, who would believe multiple news sources saying one thing especially if there is no sources saying its not that way.