Granted, but the F-22 would be useful “force multiplier” since there is no way they could ever hope to match the PRC plane for plane.

Because of the U.S enforced peaceful constitution. Not for lack of money or technology. 🙂

It was not intended to be a personal attack on you, but I have the impression that your ethic backgrounds overrules your objectivness on the matter. A large order or not, the relation ship between India and the US hasn’t been the good until few years back. They are now developing in a positive way, but that doesn’t mean the US is giving away its best technology to India, which is still no close ally, but just on the way to become a strategical partner.

I believe in a decade India will be U.S most important strategic partner ( I do not mean closest ally, which would be Britain, Nato states etc.). I think there is a strong possibility of us getting the Growler, I am not talking about the Raptor here.

The fact that I specifically speak about that capability (EA) and the fact that you reply the way you reply makes the impression that you indeed talk about India requesting EA and that it will get this capability. Everything else was not in question.

No let me make myself clear. I meant radar source codes, so that we can enhance the radars capabilities in future on our own, integrate weapons etc.

I would indeed be surprised for the numerous reasons stated above. You seem to be a little bit to overconfident, which might be related to your origins.

Yes I am confident. You can argue very well without stooping down so low, so why do that ?

A) Have another attempt on trying to convince us that the US will sell AESA radars with EA capability

or

B) You simply try to find an excuse

Its neither, the AESA source code issue is the biggest roadblock against U.S fighters, while other manufacturers have practically guaranteed it. I think this may force the U.S hand. I only meant source codes for future integration, and did not mean EA.

I can’t remember when the US has sold any electronic attack/warefare aircraft at all to anyone. Neither the EF-111A, nor the EA-6B were exported. What makes you believe that the US will sell the EA-18G? The US could sell the F-22 in relative great numbers to interested customers such as Japan, which is BTW a much closer ally to the US than India. But they don’t want to sell it for security concerns. The EA-18G while being a variant of the Super Hornet is a special purpose aircraft with highly sensitive technology.
So continue to dream about an EA-18G with IAF markings, but don’t be to disappointed when it won’t happen.

Well don’t be surprised to see it in IAF markings either. We will both be here to find out. 🙂

You have to understand that the ToT doesn’t mean the entire knowledge and technologies in all areas of the entire French, US or whatever industry just for the product offered in its configuration! Does France offer EA as part of the Rafale package to India? And even when they do it, it doesn’t mean the US would do so as well.

Again he goes off on EA. I only meant radar source codes.

Another stupid comment. Can you not understand that some expertise – and even hardware & software – is portable? The entire Selex range of AESA airborne radars, for example, uses identical T/R modules, from PicoSAR on up. The (operational, exported – including to the US, beating radars from US manufacturers) Seaspray radars have GMTI, SAR (not exactly useless for a strike aircraft) & air-air modes. Can you really not see how that carries straight across to a fighter radar, built using the same T/R modules?

It may help, but it still requires a lot of work to put it as a package in a fighter, and it will also take a lot of money and time, Why should a country risk so much on an aircraft who’s radar future is not certian, A2G integration is slow and is the most expensive of the lot. While its competitors both American and French offer much more as a package at a cheaper price.

But it’s the wrong thread anyway, as this is a Rafale news thread and I think we have more than enough threads about the IAFs MMRCA etc.

Lets move it to the IAF thread 🙂

Huh ? what did i miss ?
Fighters are getting more expensive by the minute!
And are you trying to tell me inclusion of new tech no longer increases the price ?
I hope you made a writing error

What I meant is that newer tech will reduce the cost of components like AESA radars, EW suites electronics etc. And as more users use the platform the development cost will be more evenly distributed, in theory leading to a reduction of price.

It is not applicable if you want the fighter to have more stuff than it originally had.

BTW, if you support the views of a rabid nutter like GlobalPRess, there’s no hope for you. You risk ending up as a sad, lonely, bitter loser like him.

Is that not an insult, well within forum rules i suppose 🙁

Europe is in recession – so? Why does this affect Typhoon particularly? So is Russia, & so is the USA. France & Sweden are among the European countries in recession. Every one of the competitors for MRCA is from a country in recession!

The difference is that the French Radar is almost operational and America no matter how bad it economy is, spends billions on R&D. The products U.S is offering are already operational.

Still two years to nothing
Yep*, but you needed me to tell you that. As always, you got it wrong. You should listen to those who know what they’re talking about, such as Sintra, instead of the idiots like GlobalPress.

*And only “nothing” for operational fighter radars. Euroradar consortium members have operational AESA radars out there, including airborne radars with air-air modes.

For you to label some one an idiot, it must be based on your experience with that person. I do things by mine, hence Global and Sintra and You all are equal as far as I’m concerned.

We are buying fighters with fighter radars, so it don’t matter if they have AESA on something else.