Not that I want to change the subject here, but Simon’s comment about the 610 memorial got me thinking a little. While Hooton Park would be the approriate place as it was their home station, it is however going to be seen by more people in a park in the city whose name the squadron carried and therefore the squadron’s history is a little more likely to enter the public consciousness. I am not saying there shouldn’t be a memorial at Hooton Park though, a memorial there should commemorate all the units which were stationed there.
It’s on their web site http://www.maam.org/aircraft/ccw5.html
You could also try searching the name on here http://www.freebmd.org.uk/cgi/search.pl to see if a death was registered.
Most of the bodies which were unidentified were buired in mass graves in some of the larger cemeteries. I’ve seen a couple in London cemeteries when I’ve been looking for aircrew burials.
Civilians killed by enemy action are recorded by the CWGC, so as you probably know your aunt’s name, check the CWGC for civilian entries.
Just checked the register, there are 180 civilian listed in the Edmonton borough by CWGC and searching for North Middlesex County Hospital on Geoff’s Search Engine gives 91 who were either killed there or died at that hospital as a result of being injured elsewhere.
16 people died at that hospital on the 19th April 1944, they were from addresses which seem to be fairly widely scattered, and are not listed as being injured elsewhere. Two were female, Christine Kennedy & Mary Josephine Loftus. The date suggests a V-1 rather than an actual raid by aircraft.
In a book I have lying around there is passing reference to a solider in what was then Rhodesia being killed by a falling 30mm cartridge from a Hunter. Apparently it struck him on the back of the head and that was that. End of solider. It is in a paragraph about why wearing helmets is sometimes a good idea.
Drem, North of Scotland?
That’s like saying Cottesmore is in the North of England.
No, I don’t think you have missed anything, this is the first I have heard of a new consultation. I guess this will come round every 10 years when the document is reviewed.
It would certainly go well with Andy Saunders’ recent thread about licensing, http://forum.keypublishing.co.uk/showthread.php?t=113615
Here’s a few more I know operated from airfield in the north of Scotland.
Albacore
Anson
Beaufort
Blenheim
Botha
Catalina
Corsair
Firebrand
Firefly
Fortress
Hampden
Hudson
Hunter
Hurricane
London
Lysander
Magister
Martinet
Martlett
Meteor
Oxford
Scimitar
Sea Otter
Sea Vampire
Sea Venom
Seafire
Spitfire
Stirling
Sunderland
Swordfish
Vengence
Walrus
Warwick
This could end up as quite a long list given the number of airfields and mix of RAF & RN units which passed through them.
70th anniversary of the Channel Dash and the Thousand Bomber Raid against Cologne.
You could always claim it was operating in the Pacific.
I’d be tempted to say WH132 at Chelmsford before both it and the buildings went. The later being replaced with newer ones.
Scotavia, you’re not alone.
I think he has drawn his conclusion by a literal translation of the report, which isn’t helped as it doesn’t have any witness statements.
The file includes the usual copies of the clearance form, flight plan, weather charts and weather reports from reporting station along the route. The planned route was intended to take the aircraft N-S over the western side of Skye, however I think he has mis-interpreted the following from the synopsis
“#44-83325 was observed flying contact below an 800 ft ceiling with visibility of about 5 miles. He approached the north-east end of the Isle of Skye and followed the shore for a short distance. A very few seconds later there was a loud explosion and fire was observed to roll down the mountain-side. The point where the aircraft turned inland is extremely precipitious, rising to 2000ft in roughly three miles”
If you take that with the flight plan (as it should have been) it could sound like the a/c was flying W-E but that isn’t what it says. It only says that the aircraft followed the coast and “turned inland”, well as Skye is an island it has more than one coast-line and taken in combination with the description of the terrain points to an E-W track across the northern end of the island. The terrain rises much more gently from W-E.
The VDK leaflet that I picked up from Cannock says there are 4,940 burials in 19 plots (18 in the main cemetery and 1 plot containing the graves of Zepplin crews in an area adjacent to the entrace building) and 285 down the road at the CWGC cemetery.
If the burials are in the UK, check http://twgpp.org/ they have quite a lot of German burials on their database, not all but a lot. Cannock has been done.
I’ve been through the AAIR (http://www.aviationarchaeology.com) list of crashes and there is only one P-47 that stands out as being in the same area.
P-47D 42-75861, listed as lost 5th July 1944 at St Alban’s Head, which I see from the map is to the east of Weymouth Bay. The aircraft was from the 405th FG.
There was another which just has Channel as the region and no location filled in but that could be any where. It was 42-76269, lost 20th May 1944.
There are only 2 accidents on the list with the location mentioning Warmwell, a single taxi-ing accident involving two aircraft.