Iran will respond by getting S-300. F-15’s are not nearly enough.
Israeli F 15 may be enough.
In total there are 29 missile systems, and we can safely assume that some of them would be deployed around nuclear installations. So, how would this change any Israeli tactics, if it comes down to an aerial strike?
More F 15Is and more bombs.
That is either a pure marketing bullsh!t (more likely) or a poor construction conception (less likely). Designing an airframe for far more hours that can really be utilized is idiotic – either you carry too much unnecessary structural weight around or your performance is unnecessarily impaired.
It could be. Or may be not.
And besides this, if the F-15E is so sturdy, why such fragile landing gear was designed, effectively preventing operation from rough airfields? It is like designing a tank standing on tiny wheels. I fail to see the logic here.
Who told you the E has a fragile landing gear? AFAIK it is certified for 80,000lbs.
Does ‘God’s chosen people’ ring your bell at least a little bit?
I think that the interpretation of this expression is more like God chose the Jews to pass them His words among all the people, and less in the sense the Nazis, for example dismiss other nations/races. OTOH, I don’t eliminate the possibility that hardcore Jews would give the same meaning to these words.
If Libya with EFs is no threat but Libya with Rafale is a big threat, this is a big compliment for the later, even if t wasn’t meant to…
they said most of them not some of them and they are not in front line service.
OK, so must of them and not some of them. But I don’t agree with the “not in front line service” part. The F 15 Cs are in front line service and they do have the F 100. And even the ANG F 16 (traditionally for continental US defense) served in 1999, 2001, 2003 wars.
and why introduce a new engine which is not backward compatible.
that is exactly done with AL-31 FM series. u can upgrade the old one with increase thrust into any flanker.
The Flanker family is younger than the F15 A/C, and in the same time more export-oriented. When the F 15 was modified into F 15E no one bothered to make the new engine compatible with older airframes–maybe because in that era (good ol’ cold war days) a new fighter was introduced each 10-15 years. I’m sure that no one figured in those days that until dec. 2005 the # 1 USAF air superiority fighter would still be F 15C. The Flankers were built later and exported in large numbers starting from 1990s, i. e. in a period when AFs around the world would keep a fighter for 20-30 years. Maybe this is why an “older” Flanker could be modernized with more powerfull engines that still has the same dimensions as the old ones.
Lybia and Morocco? Let me laugh. What could they do with 18 Rafales each. That number of plane will barely cover their needs for air defense. So much for mouting an attack against Spain or Italy. An ounce of aggressivity towards those countries would mean getting slaughtered by hundreds of typhoons (and I hope Rafales from France too).
Nic
Since both are NATO members, you could add other hundreds of F 16s, F 15s (Lakenheat), Tornados…:p But seriously it’s funny to believe that Lybia or Morroco could be a thret for counties like Italy or Spain. OK, may be Morroco for Spain (thousands of illegal imigrants :p )
The F 35 isn’t slow, and in no way will be slower than th f 18A.
i wouldnt call a month war with so many aircraft as contributing factor.
they had been overhauled three times already and most are not even in front line service.
And in your opinion this must be a proof of the friality of US engines…If you had red carefully the article you quoted yourself, you’d realize that f 100 was introduced in 1974 with an expected life of 16 years (let’s say 3500 hours). “As of 2003” (or almost 3000 past the lifetime guaranteed by P&W) the article says, 3,300 of these engines were still in use! No wonder that some of them “are entering the depot for a third visit”!
and it is time consuming process to extend the life of engine and aircraft is out of service for the portion of time instead replacement with new engine is better and quicker option.
What new engine??? The newer P&W 229 or GE 129 are larger, so there is no way to fit them inside of any F 16 under blk 40/42, or inside an F 15 A/B/C/D. Only F 16 blk. 40/42 and later of F 15E can accomodate new engines.
I was always amazed by the deep belief of some aviation enthusiasts that they “know better” than a highly professional AF…
so here another one from GE life extension about half million an engine . why u need life extension after 15 year service at most.
http://www.geae.com/aboutgeae/pressc…_20050523.html
and i dont think there that many F-15/16 more than 20 years old in frontline service without expensive engine overhaul.
It’s true, both the GE an P&W engines have been extesively overhauled, but they accumulated 4000-5000 hours before that. Moreover, many of them served in combat 1991 and 1999. Combat wear and tear is different from burning gas in operations like Deny Flight.
We have a 33 year old Mi-8 and it is still going strong. Talk about short service life.
You forget to mention how many hours/year these helos fly in Romanian AF. Is no great proof af serviceability if an AF has a helo/fighter for 33 years but it flew 10 hours/year…
Just to give a little hint how seriously westerners take longevity…The F-22 Aircraft Structural Integrity Program (ASIP) required a structural test airframe be cycled through the equivalent of 40 years of flight operations.
What about the F 15E with service life of 16,000 hours :diablo: …
The show is run by basic human instinct, the sense of being no less then other, and the desire to be treated equally. Had Israel not been established using back doors in the region, had Israel not been blindly suuported for its crimes against the palestinians and labanese, had Israelis not been thinking themselves as the superior race, there was no resistance movements, no Hamas or Hizbullah, no nuclear Iran
No s*it! So Iran needs nukes for defend itself against Israel?!
that 8000 hr life doesnot seem right. even National guards is replacing the engines from 1988 F-16 batch. hardly 4000 hr life at most. and Western engine cost atleast 3 times.
I think that’s a confusion. This ANG replacement program is a limmited one and concerns only units in Iowa, Ohia and Indiana. These A/Cs are blk. 42 and these have space for a larger engine, albeit there were fitted with smaller P&W 100. Some details about the program are in CodeOne: http://www.codeonemagazine.com/archives/2002/articles/oct_02/tulsa/index.html
OTOH, there are 30-20 years old F 15s and F 16s that still have thier originally engines, even if (in some cases) the engines were kit-upragded.
BTW, it’s naive to believe that an AF 31 is 3 times less costly than an GE 129/P&W 229…
affrod…when oil was 12 dollars to barrel IrAF operated 750 tactical fighters/fighter bombers plus another 90 or so training/cargo/airlift
mmmmm oil reven
And were those 750 A/C of any kelp in 1991?
Or perhaps those were low level sorties-I remember reading that in this case the range is 1/3 from the range of a high altitude mission
Nope, it’s a Lockheed-Martin system
You’re right. The EW suite is made by BAE.