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  • in reply to: IR sensor on F 22? #2534632
    aurcov
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    You seem to think that missile launch detectors are only IR sensors, and you seem to be fixating and stereotyping a particular package and a particular part of the package.

    MLD are usually an IR sensor + an UV sensor. The IR would detect the heat of the missile, while the UV would detect the plume of the rocket motor. Also, the EF has a radar-type MLD. There are spread over the airframe so they provide a 360 deg. coverage. From the rest of the sensors you mention, only an RWR would alarm the pilot that an radar guided missiles is comming, albeit it won’t help in the case of an IR missile. All the other sensors won’t give 360 deg coverage, which is the main reqirement of a MLD, not to mention that will detect a missile launch only by accident–they are not built for that.

    Sometimes some of the weapons we sell to our allies is more advanced than what we can afford to commonly field ourselves.

    Yes and no. The most recent case of a better fighter for export was F 16 the blk. 60. It’s true that the F 16s of the USAF are less sophisticated than the blk. 60 exported to UAE, but these ones became operational almost in the same time with the F 22, so USAF keept its edge.

    in reply to: Air War Over Iran – Possible Scenarios #2534649
    aurcov
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    What have they been doing for the last 17 years?

    Th double-tail F 5 and the stealth boat…:D

    in reply to: F 22 real supercruise range #2534681
    aurcov
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    Surely a radius of 400 nm including 100 nm supercruise is 800 nm total (400 out, 400 back), of which 200 nm (100 out, 100 back) is supercruise? In this case, you’re talking of 300 nm of supercruise (150 out, 150 back), plus an unknown amount of subsonic loitering & a short A/B dash. Not necessarily inconsistent with that 400 nm radius.

    I still believe that’s more than the 400Nmiles subsonic +100 Nmiles supersonic. The short A/B dash was followed by another supercruise dash to the target. The airspace area was 140 Nmiles X 120 Nmiles (with the tankers orbiting outside this area).

    You’re forgetting one thing…. range with full fuel delivered in flight is a lot greater that range on full fuel taking off. The overall range on full tanks may be 400NM taking off, climbing out, performing the mission, and returning. If you start from the same point overhead with full tanks, then you save the fuel needed for takeoff and climbout.

    In the exercise the Raptor have to take off and land as in an unrefuelled mission.

    That’s one thing that always bothered me when arguing over various aircrafts’ useful range. Very few fighters take off and perform their mission without some sort of A-A refueling these days.

    Correct. I remember I red somewhere that in 1991 Gulf War the F 15E needed 3 refuelings in some missions! And this is an A/C that can take-off with 15 tons of fuel (internal+3 bags+2 CFTs).

    in reply to: IR sensor on F 22? #2534685
    aurcov
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    Question : Which is the company that makes these IR sensors ? BAe by an chance (i’ve heard many say so) ?

    Yes it’s BAE, but it’s BAE Systems North America (former Sanders) in New Hampshire.

    in reply to: IR sensor on F 22? #2534686
    aurcov
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    @Aurcov,
    the blue side might only had 4 F-22, but there were other fighters on the blue side as well. Meaning no 4 VS 40.

    . Didn’t say that. Moreover in the article it’s mentioned that in the “blue” team there were 24 planes. OTOH the “red” team “regenerated” into 103 sorties. But the Raptors allows this score. Also in CodeOne there is a recent article about this exercise:

    Achieving nine aerial victories on a single mission qualifies for bragging rights in any fighter pilot circle even if those victories occur in simulated Red/Blue engagements. An F-22 pilot from the 27th Fighter Squadron from Langley AFB, Virginia, accomplished that very feat in June at Northern Edge exercises in Alaska. Six AMRAAMs, two Sidewinders, and one burst of rounds from a Gatling gun account for the total. Nine may not be the ultimate maximum: he had ammunition left in the gun. For aviation history buffs, nine victories equal the real-world US record of Cmdr. David McCampbell, an F6F Hellcat pilot and the Navy’s leading ace in World War II.

    “The nine-kill mission may get a lot of exposure,” says Lt. Col. Wade Tolliver, commander of the 27th Fighter Squadron. “Was it cool? Yes. But working with F-15s and F-18s to produce a kill ratio of eighty-three to one that day was way cooler. Not the fact that one F-22 happened to produce nine of those eighty-three hits.” Firsts And Results
    Northern Edge is the first major exercise for the F-22. It is also the first Raptor deployment outside the continental United States. More importantly, though, deploying 3,200 miles nonstop and operating at a new base put new aircraft to a real test. Did the F-22 succeed?

    “Yes, we succeeded,” answers Tolliver. “The day after the first jets landed, we flew thirteen sorties, and that was with ten aircraft since the remaining two arrived the next day. This fact in itself is an awesome accomplishment and proves the Raptor can deploy and be an immediate contributor to joint or coalition forces.”

    Tolliver’s opinions are backed by additional statistics. On one particular mission, though comprising just thirty-three percent of the total Blue air-to-air forces, F-22s managed to eliminate sixty-six percent of the threats. The aerial victory ratio for the Raptor in the first week of the exercise alone was 144-to-zero losses. (For those paying close attention, the one loss in the eighty-three-to-one mission was an F-15.) For the entire two-week exercise, the Raptor comprised just thirty percent of the Blue Air, yet managed to defeat almost half of the overall threats.

    The Raptor did more than defeat aerial threats. The Langley-based F-22s dropped twenty-six Joint Direct Attack Munitions while working with ground-based forward air controllers. All twenty-six bombs were direct hits. Many of the pilots, who mostly flew air-to-air combat missions in F-15Cs, were dropping bombs for the first time in this exercise. Northern Edge was the first time operational F-22 pilots dropped munitions while working with forward air controllers in a close air support role.

    Of the 105 scheduled Raptor sorties in the exercise, 102 actually launched. This ninety-seven percent sortie generation rate for the twelve deployed F-22s certainly contributed to the overall results: aircraft availability being a prerequisite for combat effectiveness. “The ability to work away from the support and supply structure of our home station and still produce such high sortie generation figures is arguably the largest success of the entire Alaska deployment,” says Tolliver.

    More Subtle Firsts
    The F-22 can claim another first in this Northern Edge: the first time the US Air Force, Navy, and Marine units combined F-22s and F/A-18s to fly integrated defensive counter air tactics. “The integration of this fifth-generation aircraft with our legacy forces creates a much more lethal and survivable force than we have ever seen before,” explains Tolliver. “The F-22’s sensors and the integrated avionics produced so much battlespace awareness that we were able to share critical information with other platforms.” This sharing increased the lethality and survivability of less-capable fighters. “That is truly transformational. We can complement, direct, and assist other platforms from the cockpit of our single-seat fighters. Even though we have never functioned as joint forces before, we found it works great.”

    Capt. Schantz adds some specifics. “F-22 pilots have the ability to use sensors to a greater degree than any other fighter pilots because of the Raptor’s sensor fusion capability,” he explains. “The F-22 scope is fully integrated to show the entire battlespace. In the heat of the fight, we can provide necessary information to other pilots at that right moment because we are fighter pilots talking to other fighter pilots.”

    Schantz explains that, even though an AWACS has thirty radar controllers aboard with a lot of combined situational awareness, information on their scopes is displayed as radar blips. “Our F-22 blips show what type of aircraft we’re seeing,” he says. “The information is deciphered for us so that we can sort friend from foe much more easily.”

    The Raptor starts with more situational awareness than an F-16, F-15, or F/A-18. “The Raptor is a light year ahead of those fighters,” explains Brig. Gen. Burton Field, commander of the 1st FW at Langley. “Assessing the situation and melding the radar picture of a four-ship so everyone has the same situational awareness can be extremely demanding in fourth-generation fighters.”

    The Raptor begins with immediate situational awareness that can be provided to other assets in the fight. “We can make each one of those players better, and we can make the entire force better. Sharing that situational awareness at the right time and in the right manner requires a different skill set than the one needed to operate a legacy fighter effectively. Those new skills are more associated with the skills of a mission commander.”

    Mission commander or battle manager may not be the right term. “I don’t think we have an accepted term for the function of a Raptor pilot in a large-scale force,” Field continues. “We aren’t necessarily in charge of the fight, but we can play a more prominent role in the fight than any other aircraft. I don’t think we have the vocabulary or the tactical mindset that fits the capabilities offered by the F-22. We may not have the operational mindset either.”

    Tolliver describes the aerial scene: “During that mission, our Blue forces faced the heaviest air threat we’ve seen in recent history. The total mission or vulnerability time was two and one-half hours. Those flying as Red Air developed their own tactics. In a single vulnerability period, they would use mass forces to try to overrun our Blue forces. At other times, they sent successive waves of smaller individual packages in a variety of tactics. To generate the numbers, Red Air returned to a simulated base to regenerate. Actually, they went to a tanker to get fuel and then came back to create additional threats.”

    “The pilot with nine simulated kills flew as my wingman that day,” explains Capt. Harry Schantz, the safety officer for the 27th FS. “His nine kills were a function of the situation. We were making sure everyone could get gas, and we were keeping our area safe. We tried to shoot every missile we had. Red Air threats were almost overwhelming, but we handled every one of them. We averaged five to six kills per F-22 pilot on busy missions like that during the exercise.”

    Firsts And Results
    Northern Edge is the first major exercise for the F-22. It is also the first Raptor deployment outside the continental United States. More importantly, though, deploying 3,200 miles nonstop and operating at a new base put new aircraft to a real test. Did the F-22 succeed?

    “Yes, we succeeded,” answers Tolliver. “The day after the first jets landed, we flew thirteen sorties, and that was with ten aircraft since the remaining two arrived the next day. This fact in itself is an awesome accomplishment and proves the Raptor can deploy and be an immediate contributor to joint or coalition forces.”

    Tolliver’s opinions are backed by additional statistics. On one particular mission, though comprising just thirty-three percent of the total Blue air-to-air forces, F-22s managed to eliminate sixty-six percent of the threats. The aerial victory ratio for the Raptor in the first week of the exercise alone was 144-to-zero losses. (For those paying close attention, the one loss in the eighty-three-to-one mission was an F-15.) For the entire two-week exercise, the Raptor comprised just thirty percent of the Blue Air, yet managed to defeat almost half of the overall threats.

    The Raptor did more than defeat aerial threats. The Langley-based F-22s dropped twenty-six Joint Direct Attack Munitions while working with ground-based forward air controllers. All twenty-six bombs were direct hits. Many of the pilots, who mostly flew air-to-air combat missions in F-15Cs, were dropping bombs for the first time in this exercise. Northern Edge was the first time operational F-22 pilots dropped munitions while working with forward air controllers in a close air support role.

    Of the 105 scheduled Raptor sorties in the exercise, 102 actually launched. This ninety-seven percent sortie generation rate for the twelve deployed F-22s certainly contributed to the overall results: aircraft availability being a prerequisite for combat effectiveness. “The ability to work away from the support and supply structure of our home station and still produce such high sortie generation figures is arguably the largest success of the entire Alaska deployment,” says Tolliver.

    More Subtle Firsts
    The F-22 can claim another first in this Northern Edge: the first time the US Air Force, Navy, and Marine units combined F-22s and F/A-18s to fly integrated defensive counter air tactics. “The integration of this fifth-generation aircraft with our legacy forces creates a much more lethal and survivable force than we have ever seen before,” explains Tolliver. “The F-22’s sensors and the integrated avionics produced so much battlespace awareness that we were able to share critical information with other platforms.” This sharing increased the lethality and survivability of less-capable fighters. “That is truly transformational. We can complement, direct, and assist other platforms from the cockpit of our single-seat fighters. Even though we have never functioned as joint forces before, we found it works great.”

    Capt. Schantz adds some specifics. “F-22 pilots have the ability to use sensors to a greater degree than any other fighter pilots because of the Raptor’s sensor fusion capability,” he explains. “The F-22 scope is fully integrated to show the entire battlespace. In the heat of the fight, we can provide necessary information to other pilots at that right moment because we are fighter pilots talking to other fighter pilots.”

    Schantz explains that, even though an AWACS has thirty radar controllers aboard with a lot of combined situational awareness, information on their scopes is displayed as radar blips. “Our F-22 blips show what type of aircraft we’re seeing,” he says. “The information is deciphered for us so that we can sort friend from foe much more easily.”

    The Raptor starts with more situational awareness than an F-16, F-15, or F/A-18. “The Raptor is a light year ahead of those fighters,” explains Brig. Gen. Burton Field, commander of the 1st FW at Langley. “Assessing the situation and melding the radar picture of a four-ship so everyone has the same situational awareness can be extremely demanding in fourth-generation fighters.”

    The Raptor begins with immediate situational awareness that can be provided to other assets in the fight. “We can make each one of those players better, and we can make the entire force better. Sharing that situational awareness at the right time and in the right manner requires a different skill set than the one needed to operate a legacy fighter effectively. Those new skills are more associated with the skills of a mission commander.”

    Mission commander or battle manager may not be the right term. “I don’t think we have an accepted term for the function of a Raptor pilot in a large-scale force,” Field continues. “We aren’t necessarily in charge of the fight, but we can play a more prominent role in the fight than any other aircraft. I don’t think we have the vocabulary or the tactical mindset that fits the capabilities offered by the F-22. We may not have the operational mindset either.”

    in reply to: USAF has a new UAV (Reaper) with the firepower of an F 16! #2534696
    aurcov
    Participant

    Also the fact that, that UCAV couldn’t handle a high threat big SAM, enemy fighter environ by itself.

    But the Reaper is not for attacking targets guarded by Russian double digit SAMs or by Flankers. OTOH it’s ideal for conflicts like Irak or Afganistan.

    in reply to: Israel plans to attack Iran nuke site #2535092
    aurcov
    Participant

    This ain’t nothing new to me. I think it is just logical that alongside a civilian nuclear programme Iranians are striuving for a military programme, as well. If I were an Iranian, I would very probably support such effort. Having nukes ain’t no crime nowadays..

    It does not require a lot of logic to put together the pieces: they oficially deny any military aspect of their nuclerar program, but OTOH they reject the AEIA inspections that would certified this. Add to these the Iranian oficial rethoric and you can undestand the Israeli concerns.

    Not directly.. Khamaeny isn’t Ahmy’s boss as you would like to imply

    I would say that Khamy is not only Ahmy’s boss, but everybody’s boss in Iran.

    It is somewhat similar to European states with premier minister and president, you cannot say that one is above the other.

    Not quite.

    The “supreme leader” is lifetime elected–it’s not the case for presidents in parliamentary republics in Europe.

    The “supreme” also names the members of the Guardian Council. these one have the power to forbid anyone to candidate (that’s why it doesn’t really matter if Ahmy’s support has dropped to 14 % and reformist are gaining popularity; the Council can turn any dangerous candidate–in fact it is just what it did at last elections,turning off thousands of opposition candidates so no surprise the fundamentalists control 156 seats from 290 of the Majlis) . So, through the Council the “supreme” has control over the president, since this one is also elected.

    In theory the “supreme” is elected/deposed by the Expert Assembly (some 80 mullahs) bot OTOH the candidates for these body are approved by the Guardin Council, whose members, if you remember, are named by the “supreme”. Nice …

    So who is the big boss after you?

    in reply to: Israel plans to attack Iran nuke site #2535118
    aurcov
    Participant

    LOL.. See, that is a typical Jewish mentality.. ‘If we won’t sustain, then nobody will!!!!!!’

    I don’t know the typical Jewish mentality, since I am not Jew. Strangely, if anyone dare to critic Iran he must be Jew/American. But in my opinion, if the Iranians will ever built nukes and will be stupid enough to use (unprovoked) against Israel, this one has all the rights to retaliate. And probably they really do have the possibility to “wipe out” Iran off the map.

    Because his current support is something less than 14%, that is why.

    Again, Khameney isn’t much better. And without the blessing of the “supreme”, Ahmy wouldn’t dare to speak as he does.

    Besides that, how do you imagine thw world in say 150 years? That USA, Europe and China will be running on ultra super-douper pocket Kryptonite thermonuclear devices as source of energy while Iran will still have no nuclear energy exploited and will be burning petrol instead just to make you and the likes feel safe? Gimme a break, you cannot be serious

    If Iran would go only after a nuclear cilivian program, no one would care about this issue. But Iran ceased the cooperation with AIEA. Any country with nuclear power plants is obliged to permit AEIA inspectors to check every single step of the fuel cycle. Besides it does not ring a bell the fact that Iran refused EU/Russian offer to supply them with enriched fuel? The Russian even offer them something that other nuclear plant operator can only dream–to take back in Russia the spent fuel. Guess what was the Iranain answer…

    Now let me quote a bit:
    The Supreme Leader of Iran is responsible for the delineation and supervision of “the general policies of the Islamic Republic of Iran”. The Supreme Leader is Commander-in-Chief of the armed forces, controls the military intelligence and security operations; and has sole power to declare war.

    But earlier you said this:

    Ask them. BTW, there is noone directly ‘above him’, there are just people ‘next to’ him

    So there is someone above him, after all:)

    in reply to: Israel plans to attack Iran nuke site #2535132
    aurcov
    Participant

    BTW, Israel has no eternal ‘right’ or whatever to exist. It is there now and there is no assurance it will be there in 200 years.

    There are some chances that this will happen. But I can bet that if Israel won’t be there in 200 years, neither Iran will.

    Ahmadinejad is just a puppet, unlike Kim. I agree that Kim hold the finger on NK weapons arsenal, but Ahmadinejad definitely does not.

    I can’t understand why you try to diminish its importance in Iran. After all he is #2 in that country.

    And who are you or your country to decide that!?

    I’m not from US.

    Given the fact that Pakistan is an autoritarian military state and has nukes gives me exactly as little comfort. And given the fact that the most powerful military on Earth is led by an idiot with an IQ of a slightly retarded six year old child gives me even less comfort.

    You are stubbornly ignoring what many forum members underlined: Ahmadinejad did threaten another country to wipe it from the face on the earth. I don’t remember Musharaf or Bush (as idiot he may be) did that.

    Gimme a break. Transparents like ‘Mag barg Amrika’ or ‘Mag barg Israil’ (‘Death to America’ or ‘Death to Israel’) started to appear on Iranian streets since Khomeini’s revolution and since then they are a rather common sight. 30 years of ‘threatening’ and..? what happened?

    Anti-Israel slogans have become more a folklore and vote chasing thing than anything else.

    We are not discussing here slogans that mobs yell after each Friday prayer on Middle East streets. It is about the policy of a regime that in relatively short time may possess nukes.

    Ask them. BTW, there is noone directly ‘above him’, there are just people ‘next to’ him

    Not quite. Khameny is the “Supreme Leader” i.e. head of state , while Ahmy is the head of govt. But the “supreme” has control over appointments of the govt. members. Also, the members of Council for the Discernment of Expediency (a policy advisory and implementation board that exerts supervisory authority over the executive, judicial, and legislative branches) are appointed by the Supreme Leader. As well as the members of the Council of Guardians of the Constitution that determines whether proposed legislation is both constitutional and faithful to Islamic law and supervises national elections. Also the “supreme” has total control over the political pressure groups that conduct most of Iran’s political activities.

    But i’m sure you already knew this since you said to suflanker45 that he “actually know sh!t about Iran”…

    in reply to: IR sensor on F 22? #2535134
    aurcov
    Participant

    F-22’s current Missile Launch Detectors (MLD) provide complete IR coverage around the aircraft. The system is capable of providing azimuth and elevation to IR contacts with incredible precision.

    I find hard to believe that the data for a MLD could be so imporant to be passwed away from a raptor to other A/Cs in the network. Moreover, even if this would be true, the article implies that there were A-G data while the MLD would help in A-A.

    MLDs are found on virtually all combat aircraft.

    Not quite. Except the F 22 none of the current USAF fighters has such system. There are some USAF CSAR assets (MH 53 J, HC/MC 130) that have MLD, but no F 15s or F 16s. Outside US, fighters with MLD are the European F 16 MLU (that has them mounted on the inbord pylons), Eurofighter and Rafale.

    The main point is, whatever the system, it is operational on F 22.

    Back to the article — I always liked AvLeak, because a lot of interesting stuff can be red between the lines. 😀 Such as:

    “The F-22’s Mach 1.5 supercruise capability also got a workout in Alaska. Because only eight F-22s were ever airborne at once during the exercise, four of them were constantly involved in refueling from tankers flying orbits 150 mi. away. Supercruise got the fighters there and back quickly. On station, the fighter would conserve fuel by cruising at high altitude.We could sit up at high altitude and save our gas and watch. (…) We don’t hang out at Mach 1.5. With our acceleration, when we saw the threats building, because we could see them so far out, we’d dump the nose over, light the burners and we were right up to fighting speed.”

    This could mean that the F 22 has a longer supercruise range that stated (semi)officially. See the AFA Journal article: (http://www.afa.org/magazine/jan2005/0105raptor.asp). If you look at the graph, you’ll see that the combat radius is officially 400 Nmiles including 100 Nmiles dash. But, according to the AvLeak article, the F 22 flew in supercruise some 150 Nmiles from the tankers, than reduced the speed to subsonic while they lurked at high altitude, started the AB when the “ennemy” was spoted, dashed to intercept in supercruise, than back to tanker in supercruise. That’s a least 300 Nmiles!

    Also, what’s impressive is that the ‘blue” team has only 4 Raptors at one time in action. Leading the “blue” team against 40 “red” air fighters!

    in reply to: Israel plans to attack Iran nuke site #2535526
    aurcov
    Participant

    Does Golda Meir and 1973 ring your bell?

    Israel was under attack, risking to disappear as a state. As I already said, I could understand if a country (even Iran or NK) would have nukes for self-defense. Beside she did not threated Egypt or Syria, bur said simply that without new Phantoms, Israel will be forced to used nukes. A little different from Iran case, don’t youy think? Is Iran under attack?????

    Why do USA or French need nukes, then? Who threaten them so hard?

    Soviet Union did, when these nukes were developped.

    How is it different from all other nuclear states? Don’t be a fool, nobody wants nukes for defense.

    You are probably right, but that’s what Ahmadinejad and Kim are keep saying.I

    personally see Israelis as exactly the same reckless fanatics as Iranians. Maybe their fanatism is more racial than religious, but it is definitely there.

    I wont’ t start to argue about this. It’s your opinion. But if israel have nukes, I will repeat it, they did’t used them, neither threaten to used them against a country that did nothing against them (as Iran did).

    Wrong. Iran is not an autocracy… you cannot just point a finger at whoever you choose. There is no single man in Iran that has that kind of power.

    Iran is rated as a theocracy by the most neutral political analysts. The fact that the decision to use nukes has to be proposed by Ahmadinejad, approved by Khamenei and sanctionaed by Council of Guardians, gives very little confort. But you deliberatley missed my point. If Ahmadinejad is not the big boss, why the ones who are above him did not disapproved what he said? What would be your reaction if US, for example would threaten to wipe off the map a coutry that did nothing against it? But hey, it’s just Israel, so it’s not a big deal…

    BTW, Israel has no eternal ‘right’ or whatever to exist. It is there now and there is no assurance it will be there in 200 years. States and empires come and go. If, according to your logic, every racial group should be given right to create their own state with an eternal right to exist, then why don’t we see you scream and shout for a separate Kurdistan? Are Kurds less than Jews?

    Where did I said that Israel has any “eternal right” to exist???

    in reply to: IR sensor on F 22? #2535580
    aurcov
    Participant

    The possiblity of a future/possible IR sensor on the f 22 was mentioned by many serious sources.

    Neverthless, what I find intriguing is that the guy (Gen. Ronald Keys, chief of Air Combat Command) said that “modifications are underway …” speaking about the capability of Raptor to transmit these data using its datalinks, not about the IR sensor, so one can assume that this one exists in this moment!

    And considering the speaker, he must know a few things…

    in reply to: Israel plans to attack Iran nuke site #2535584
    aurcov
    Participant

    Well, actually he doesn’t really need to say it. His missiles do it for himself..

    Well said…

    in reply to: IR sensor on F 22? #2535590
    aurcov
    Participant

    The F-22 definitely needs data links, but the datalinks needs to be multimode, and proper tactics used. For security reasons I do not want to speculate or talk in more debth.

    Data links are good, but if the F-22 is trying to be stealthy and it is using a data link in active mode, it is somewhat counterproductive. The data links, like radar should be made so they have full capability in the active mode and partial capability in a passive mode.

    Not only should it have the capability but pilots actually have to know how to use, and to employ them properly. It’s like the F-117 that was shot down, it was shot down largely if not entirely because it was used in a way that did not exploit its stealth. It was complacency.

    The f 22 has two datalinks.

    One is the intra flight data link (IFDL) part of the CNI (communications, navigation, and identification) suite. It allows many Raptors to communicate among them. The other one is a receiving-only Link 16 that allows the Raptor to receive data from the AWACS, R 135, JSTAR, GCI, whatever.

    The IFDL can network less participants than the Link 16, but allows a transfer rate far above the 256 kbits/s of the Link 16. Also, in the near future the 22 will receive a full Link 16 terminal (MIDS) that will allow the Raptor not only to receive data from outside sources, but also to transmit data obtained from its formidable sensor suite to other particiapnts, without voice communication (as it do presently).

    Also, the APG 77 has the potential (described in the end of the article) to act as a datalink with huge transmission rates.

    As for any of the datalinks emplyoyed improperly, I find hard to believe that any of the systems (IFDL, Link 16, AESA radar) would reveal the Raptor position. A datalink transmission is too short to allow even the most potent passive sensor (outside US, that would be the Ukrainian “Kolchuga”) to locate the Raptor.

    in reply to: Israel plans to attack Iran nuke site #2535662
    aurcov
    Participant

    ROTFLMAO.. You have completely lost the last traces of any objectivity.. One really has to wonder what kind of weird combination of nerve synapsis connections are required so that someone actually believes such nonsense and even spreads it around.

    Really? Let’s see…Israel (probably) have nukes (said probably since Israel did not declared they do, neither tested any). OK so far. Did Israel use them? Did Israel threaten someone with these nukes? Not so far.

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    Originally Posted by aurcov
    I would have no problems with an Iranian bomb (or even NK one) if would serve as a dissuasion weapon and not to attack or blackmail other country.

    A good joke. Go on!

    And why is a joke? What I said was that neither Iran nor NK really need nukes. Who threaten them so hard? NK said that it needs nukes for defend against US. But US retired their tactical nukes from SK some years ago and moved its troops (~ 30,000 men) inside SK from the SK/NK border. In these conditions, it seems that the NK use their nukes as a blackmail tool to obtain money, oil, international status (direct negotiations with US instead multi-lateral ones). In case of Iran, also there is no one threatening their very existence (as in case of Israel). More likely they want to become a regional power. It would be not so serious, but the world would face nukes in the hand of religious fanatics.

    Empty trash.. Ahmadinejad has roughly as much power over possible Iranian nukes as you have over Caspian gas fields

    I heard this non-sense do often that I’ bored… OK, so Ahmadiejad has no power. The real power belongs to chief of state. That would be the Supreme Leader Ali Hoseini-KHAMENEI.

    Wow, what a relief :p 😀 :diablo:

    Did he discourage Ahmadiejad rhetoric? Did he say that Israel has the right to exist? Are his remarks more pacifists than Ahmadinejad’s ones?

    Give me a break.

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